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Old 12-11-08, 10:31 PM   #1
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How to suffer during a TT?

What are some of your techniques on dealing with pain during a time trial? Do you listen to music? Try to "make it to that next electrical pole"? Load up on sodium bicarbonate a few days before?
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Old 12-11-08, 10:33 PM   #2
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How to suffer during a TT?

Eat a liverwurst sandwich shortly before your TT.


What are some of your techniques on dealing with pain during a time trial?

When it hurts ... ride harder.

Who has time to listen to music or observe electrical poles during a TT? And what good would sodium bicarbonate do? ... although ... maybe it would have helped ease the nausea of that liverwurst sandwich.
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Old 12-11-08, 10:37 PM   #3
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Eat a liverwurst sandwich shortly before your TT.
I think that would do it, and perhaps make the next few people behind you suffer as well. Myself, I try and hold my position and speed until the next whatever that is just out of reach.
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I think that would do it, and perhaps make the next few people behind you suffer as well. Myself, I try and hold my position and speed until the next whatever that is just out of reach.
And when you get there?
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Old 12-11-08, 10:44 PM   #5
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And when you get there?
There's always a next, until the finish line I keep focusing ahead as much as I can, even if it's only a couple of hundred meters.
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Old 12-11-08, 10:46 PM   #6
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Everytime I find myself losing it I think about what it feels like losing, or imagine my 1 minute man closing in.

If it's really bad I shift positions in my seat a little to change the loading on my legs, or try to concentrate on my breathing or pedaling.
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Old 12-11-08, 10:59 PM   #7
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I force myself to keep going.. I know that I will be pissed for a long time if I let up and dont put the best time on the board that I can... but the pain in the legs will be gone by the next morning.
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Old 12-11-08, 11:49 PM   #8
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i imagine a redneck in a pickup tailing me
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Suffering is relative.
Try to remember life changing moments.
Cancer, car crashes, prom night.
Now a bit of lung and leg busting isn't so bad.
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i think the will to suffer comes from within, and either you can handle it as a cyclist or cannot. now assuming you can handle the pain the question is how do you push yourself to work harder when you feel it is impossible. what i do, when i am at the limit, is to be sure i am not bogging down on my cadence and will take an upshift if needed to get the leg speed back up (go from strength to more aerobic). then when i feel like i can mash it harder i shift back down and put the big meat behind it.

this is a bit different than the pain to bridge a gap of if you are starting to pop on a climb. in these cases you have to take inventory and forget the pain and try to move outside your body. Jens Voight has a couple youtube videos where he talks about separating mind and body to some extent ... mind tells the body what to do and there is no compromise no matter the pain.
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Old 12-12-08, 06:43 AM   #11
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I have my australian friend call me the day before and tell me he's going to spank me at the TT. That's usually good for a PR.
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You have to learn to suffer. Practice it. In your workouts, when you are doing intervals, threshold or VO2 you will learn how to suffer. Keep doing those workouts and your body and mind will say, "Hey, this hurts. But I've been here before and I will be fine."

Also, keeping hr/power below that magic number tells me that no matter how much it hurts, i'll be fine.
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You have to learn to suffer. Practice it. In your workouts, when you are doing intervals, threshold or VO2 you will learn how to suffer. Keep doing those workouts and your body and mind will say, "Hey, this hurts. But I've been here before and I will be fine."

Also, keeping hr/power below that magic number tells me that no matter how much it hurts, i'll be fine.
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Music is a no-no.
Thinking about girls is a no-no.
Internal focus is key. Breathing and pedal stroke.
When you're in the last km, then dream of the gold medal, the podium girls, the spot on Letterman. Threshold doesn't matter any more at that point.
The rest of the time stay inside your body.
It will hurt, though.
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Old 12-12-08, 08:47 AM   #14
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Focus on the breathing. Try to catch your minute man. Under no circumstances get passed.
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If I feel like I am fading I will click up a few gears, stand up and mash my way to another MPH or two. That usually helps change my focus enough so that I can then settle down again and maintain speed. Unless I am toast of course.
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you should focus so hard you can feel every blood cell pump through your legs

no music no distractions. you must be able to focus and hold the pain.
hell don't carry anything not directly related to your TT. any extra weight
will only slow you down.

that takes concentration and you need to be in tune with yourself.


anyhow, get down low NEVER lift up your head or body do not come out of the
aero tuck ever not for a fraction of a second, unless your life is in danger.

and hammer.

use big gears
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Old 12-12-08, 08:58 AM   #17
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i imagine a redneck in a pickup tailing me
OMG! I can picture Ned Beatty on a bike spinning for dear life!
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Old 12-12-08, 09:07 AM   #18
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Suffering is relative.
Try to remember life changing moments.
Cancer, car crashes, prom night.
Now a bit of lung and leg busting isn't so bad.
I'm afraid to ask this question. But what happened on your prom night that put it on the same page as cancer and a car crash?

Something that helps me crank the suffer meter is to count the tempo I'd like to be pedaling at in my head then match my legs to it.
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If I feel like I am fading I will click up a few gears, stand up and mash my way to another MPH or two. That usually helps change my focus enough so that I can then settle down again and maintain speed. Unless I am toast of course.
Unless it's a hilly course and you're doing it climbing, this is a seriously bad answer. You're making yourself much less aero, and the power output for that one or two mph is huge compared to staying in your aero psition. You need to train to be able to put out power the length of the TT maintaining a good aero postion.

If you feel the need to get out of the aerobars and stand, on a flat course, you're position needs work, or you need to get better acclimated to your position.
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Unless it's a hilly course and you're doing it climbing, this is a seriously bad answer. You're making yourself much less aero, and the power output for that one or two mph is huge compared to staying in your aero psition. You need to train to be able to put out power the length of the TT maintaining a good aero postion.

If you feel the need to get out of the aerobars and stand, on a flat course, you're position needs work, or you need to get better acclimated to your position.
suggestion noted. filed accordingly.
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Old 12-12-08, 09:23 AM   #21
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Learn to enjoy the pain. The pain is mostly internal and temporary. It's an outlet. Let the pain transfer from in to out.
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Old 12-12-08, 09:56 AM   #22
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seeing as how I'm a masochist and loathe myself, I enjoy the pain.
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Old 12-12-08, 10:00 AM   #23
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Call me weird, but I fall down inside the pain and let it become my world. After a bit, the pain centers overload and stress adaptation starts to occur, or I* get a big dump of endorphins and the pain slides away again.
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Old 12-12-08, 12:36 PM   #24
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Whenever I go out my goals are;
-Catch 'x' amount of racers and not get caught.
-Never leave the most aero position unless climbing a sudden grade
-Tape over my computer head so I don't know how fast,how far, or how much power I'm putting through; therefore I'm at the edge
-Focus on breathing and whats up the road
-Think of winning
-Put everything you have into the pedals when you see the mile to go marker
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It's called the pain cave. If you visit it enough, you can learn to live there for a while.
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