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Old 12-17-08, 12:08 AM   #1
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Skinsuit, LS or SS

Alright wind tunnel gurus, what's faster, Long sleeved or or Short sleeved skinsuit? Assume that the weather is such that I could go either way as far as temperature is concerned.

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Old 12-17-08, 12:23 AM   #2
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I'm fairly certain its long sleeve, but if you want to be sure, google time trial world championships and look at the images, it will probably give you the answer there.
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Long-sleeve

As far as I know, it's long-sleeved. Most people would say that more skin covered by lycra is better. The key, of course, is fit--you don't want ripples in your arms or anywhere in your suit. For that reason, short-sleeve suits are a lot easier to fit different body sizes. The negative of long-sleeve skinsuits is that they can feel warm in certain climates. Many pros will actually start with a long-sleeve skinsuit and cut the sleeves near the elbow to get the most aero effect while keeping the lower arm bare for "cooling."

With that said, I really don't think the difference is that significant. It is much easier to find a well-fitting short-sleeve skinsuit than a long one and it will be a lot more versatile for most riders.
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Long sleeve usually, though the advantage isn't much.
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Long sleeve usually, though the advantage isn't much.
It might be for me and my hairy arms.
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Alright wind tunnel gurus, what's faster, Long sleeved or or Short sleeved skinsuit? Assume that the weather is such that I could go either way as far as temperature is concerned.

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long sleeve.
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Long sleeve usually, though the advantage isn't much.
for mortals: correct.

for pros: incorrect.
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Old school Mike Burroughs says long sleeves have wrinkles and not to use them. He's the only person I know of who is an advocate against their use.
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O'Donnell has spent more time in the tunnel than Armstrong. He says long sleeve. If he were here he'd mock the question.
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awesome, thanks for the replies.

Now I just hope I'm in a category that allows me to purchase a skinsuit.
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Old 12-17-08, 06:35 PM   #11
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Old school Mike Burroughs says long sleeves have wrinkles and not to use them. He's the only person I know of who is an advocate against their use.
I don't see any wrinkles on the ones I've seen.

I'm surprised nobody has asked if they make the sleeves with dimples yet
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Long sleeves. Go!
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I don't see any wrinkles on the ones I've seen.

I'm surprised nobody has asked if they make the sleeves with dimples yet

ummmm

Here is my skinsuit for nest season....
http://www.champ-sys.com/blank_no_ti...eve&OrgID=1521
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Old school Mike Burroughs says long sleeves have wrinkles and not to use them. He's the only person I know of who is an advocate against their use.
and he's remarkably incorrect.

can't speak from personal experience, merely echoing what a friend of mine who knows more about apparel technology than anyone on this forum.

fwiw - these two are wearing the results of a project that he lead, several year ago.

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O'Donnell has spent more time in the tunnel than Armstrong. He says long sleeve. If he were here he'd mock the question.
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Long Sleeve skin suits are hotter than hell in the summer. Get a short sleeve and shave your arms.
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is the wrong answer.
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is the wrong answer.
Good call. I wore my LS SS in Ohio in August. Mine actually cools you a little.
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Good call. I wore my LS SS in Ohio in August. Mine actually cools you a little.
I've got the same skinsuit as you, the ChampSys longsleeve, and I've NEVER had a problem with it being hot, and I've raced it on some HOT days.
I like that new ChampSys skinsuit, I know Pearl Izumi and Louis Garnea are doing the same type thing now.
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Well the one I was wearing is Verge and it is a little toasty. Although I do see how a LS skin suite could easily be designed to be cool.
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Is it cheaper to go SS skinsuit and armwarmers?

Look at me, pinching pennies, bwahahahahaha!
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And, shaving your arms is really ****ing ghey.
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^^ But then so is pink lycra. This whole sport is an exercise in being comfortable looking like an idiot.
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and he's remarkably incorrect.

can't speak from personal experience, merely echoing what a friend of mine who knows more about apparel technology than anyone on this forum.

fwiw - these two are wearing the results of a project that he lead, several year ago.

Yeah. Though I'd posit Hoy in a skin suit like that is more about intimidation than aerodynamic advantage. That's some scary looking ****. That guy can crush souls with a glance.
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