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Old 01-25-09, 06:37 PM
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Things heat up between Cav and Tommeke

Boonen is asked about his opinions on Cavendish toward the end.
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Cav may have the better sprint but Tommeke is the man...he wins the hard man races, one day classics that are monuments. Bunch sprint wins are great and all but in the end who will be remembered more Boonen or Cav?
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
Cav may have the better sprint but Tommeke is the man...he wins the hard man races, one day classics that are monuments. Bunch sprint wins are great and all but in the end who will be remembered more Boonen or Cav?
That, and getting in trouble for snorting blow, and one can only assume, off the backside of your 17 year old girlfriend is far more memorable than any silly Olympic medals.
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Originally Posted by el diablo rojo
cav may have the better sprint but tommeke is the man...he wins the hard man races, one day classics that are monuments. Bunch sprint wins are great and all but in the end who will be remembered more boonen or cav?
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
Cav may have the better sprint but Tommeke is the man...he wins the hard man races, one day classics that are monuments. Bunch sprint wins are great and all but in the end who will be remembered more Boonen or Cav?
I don't know. Probably have to wait a few years to find that out.

And don't get me wrong, I think Boonen is amazing - more of a Classics man who also happens to have a killer sprint than a sprinter per se. He's a phenomenal rider. That said, sheer speed means that Cavendish will win a LOT of races over his career, and if he develops into a rider with more capability in the hard races he will truly be a force to be reckoned with.
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Originally Posted by grolby
That said, sheer speed means that Cavendish will win a LOT of races over his career, and if he develops into a rider with more capability in the hard races he will truly be a force to be reckoned with.
Maybe, but I have to agree with Tommeke on this one. I can see Cav finishing well at MSR, but Flanders and Roubaix? Doubtful.
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Cipo thinks he might be a little bit good.

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Originally Posted by kniprm
Maybe, but I have to agree with Tommeke on this one. I can see Cav finishing well at MSR, but Flanders and Roubaix? Never.
Fixed that for you.

I will boil, dice, and eat my hat if Cavendish ever wins Flanders or Roubaix.
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Heat up? Hardly. He said he has the body type of a different type of rider. He might be right, he might not be. Cavendish is 23 years old, he's got a long way to go to his peak, and that's scary.
Hardly an inflammatory interview.
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
That, and getting in trouble for snorting blow, and one can only assume, off the backside of your 17 year old girlfriend is far more memorable than any silly Olympic medals.
It was off the taut stomach of a world weary 16 year old Hungarian "model" to be accurate. An updated club mix of Falco's Der Commisar was playing and the blow in question was proffered by an Omani national working with his government on establishing a piggyback race to the tour of Qatar.
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This goes back to the 'Ultimate Question' thread:

Would you rather win a lot of races, or win fewer races but win the big ones. If had choice between winning 30 races and 15, included in that 15 were PB and Flanders I'd take the 15. Few pure sprinters are remembered for just there turn of speed. We remember Chipo for his flair, Zabel for his class and Robbie for his agression and post race comments. Cav has none of these attributes, save the aggression, but sounds like a buffoon when interviewed. No in the end it's Boonen FTW.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
This goes back to the 'Ultimate Question' thread:

Would you rather win a lot of races, or win fewer races but win the big ones. If had choice between winning 30 races and 15, included in that 15 were PB and Flanders I'd take the 15. Few pure sprinters are remembered for just there turn of speed. We remember Chipo for his flair, Zabel for his class and Robbie for his agression and post race comments. Cav has none of these attributes, save the aggression, but sounds like a buffoon when interviewed. No in the end it's Boonen FTW.
pure sprinters don't have a long shelf life. who can name a top sprinter from the past that never won a classic, or a world championship?

Zabel was so much more than a sprinter.

while we remember Cipollini for his flair, he was more than just that. the rainbow jersey is probably one reason while his name will be remembered a lot longer than McEwan's.

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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo

but sounds like a buffoon when interviewed.
Wha? He's not Zabriskie-like but, I don't hear anything in interviews that makes me think he's a donk.

Maybe just a young kid from a small town thrust on the big stage?

Big talent, exciting to watch.
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I saw no war of words in the article. Boonen was very gentlemanly.
Cav is quick. Boonen is strong. Simple.
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correct.

I was generalizing but yes Chipo was much more than just style, and Zabel was much more than just a green jersey winner....Boonen is more than just a sprinter...which makes him more than just a Cav.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
correct.

I was generalizing but yes Chipo was much more than just style, and Zabel was much more than just a green jersey winner....Boonen is more than just a sprinter...which makes him more than just a Cav.
Yep, well said. A great deal more, but time will tell...
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Originally Posted by obie
Wha? He's not Zabriskie-like but, I don't hear anything in interviews that makes me think he's a donk.

Maybe just a young kid from a small town thrust on the big stage?

Big talent, exciting to watch.
that pretty much nails boonen.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
correct.

I was generalizing but yes Chipo was much more than just style, and Zabel was much more than just a green jersey winner....Boonen is more than just a sprinter...which makes him more than just a Cav.
Man, the kid just started racing as a pro.

Lets watch him grow, I'm hoping he gets stronger all round.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Man, the kid just started racing as a pro.

Lets watch him grow, I'm hoping he gets stronger all round.
hope against hope.
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Originally Posted by botto
hope against hope.
Like soap on a rope?
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
Fixed that for you.

I will boil, dice, and eat my hat if Cavendish ever wins Flanders or Roubaix.


agreed.
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Originally Posted by obie
Wha? He's not Zabriskie-like but, I don't hear anything in interviews that makes me think he's a donk.

Maybe just a young kid from a small town thrust on the big stage?

Big talent, exciting to watch.
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Originally Posted by Ste_S
Beg forgiveness here but it isn't like he grew up in a small African village and has been thrust into a big world of which he has little knowledge. They do have both television and the Internet on the Isle of Mann. Broadband even. The "small town kid" excuse went out a while ago; you aren't going to convince him to buy your magic beans or that a little man lives inside your cell phone.

At 23 you don't get a free pass in any case. And Boonen's 28 for chrissakes. If you're risking your career at that age by doing blow it's because you're a dumbarse.
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non sequitur, but am i the only one who can't stand it when cavendish is referred to as "Cav?"

and for that matter, unless you speak flemish, can we drop the "Tommeke" sobriquet?

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I speak flemish.

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