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    Race wheel dilemma (deep aero or climber)

    A little bit about me. I'm 5'8" 172 pounds and about 10% body fat. I'm a good time trialist and really good at sprinting but I have been know to get shelled on some longer hills or really short and steep ones. I want to invest in a tubular wheelset and was wondering which direction to go .... a bit heavier aero rim or a lightweight climber rim. Does the aero rim make that much of a difference for breakawys? I am not afraid to fly off the front and attempt this quite often depending on the course layout. I guess what's eating me is that I see guys off the front the entire race on some stages of the tour and their wheelset is nothing close to deepdish aero's? Help me out folks!

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    How much weight do you stand to save if you go with lighter rims over aero? 100-200g? Take that and compare it to your total weight (rider + clothes + bike + water) and you'll find less than a 1% difference. Your climbing will not improve a noticeable amount from that, but it will if you spend more time climbing.

    I'm currently leaning towards putting 30mm rims on my next build instead of 19 even though the wheels will then be too strong for me. I figure for the 130g I'll save, 30mm might help me better. Lucky for me, I have a while to pine it over until I can afford them.
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    On all but the hilliest courses, aero trumps weight. Look at the wheels Tyler Hamilton used to win the US Pro Championship.
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

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    5ft 8, 172, and 10% BF? If true thats bad ass!
    Last edited by wfrogge; 01-29-09 at 12:14 PM.
    Please remember that all statements unless quoted, are strictly my opinion of what happened. That there are as many opinions as there are spectators attending. I just choose to publish mine on this forum. And would NEVER intend to purposely hurt or discredit any other cyclist.... With that said... HTFU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
    5ft 8, 172, and 10% BF? If true thats bad ass!
    What's wrong with that? I was there not too long ago!

    Aero. Every time. Except on Hill climb TTs. And even on some of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWJODonnell View Post
    What's wrong with that? I was there not too long ago!

    Aero. Every time. Except on Hill climb TTs. And even on some of those.
    Thats just a stout weight/BF % for being that short.


    Oh and go aero... You guys down in LA have no hills worth worrying about
    Please remember that all statements unless quoted, are strictly my opinion of what happened. That there are as many opinions as there are spectators attending. I just choose to publish mine on this forum. And would NEVER intend to purposely hurt or discredit any other cyclist.... With that said... HTFU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    aero trumps weight.
    yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
    5ft 8, 172, and 10% BF? If true thats bad ass!
    Regardless of the composition of those 172lbs, he has about 20 to lose.
    "If a non personal post makes you feel as if you've been attacked, maybe the problem IS you."

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    from what I understand, the answer is nearly always aero. but dont expect 'em to keep you from getting popped on hills/short climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    Regardless of the composition of those 172lbs, he has about 20 to lose.
    To be a competitive cyclist.. yep but for just being ripped he would be solid muscle.
    Please remember that all statements unless quoted, are strictly my opinion of what happened. That there are as many opinions as there are spectators attending. I just choose to publish mine on this forum. And would NEVER intend to purposely hurt or discredit any other cyclist.... With that said... HTFU!

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    Aero bc you can still get aero tubulars less then 1300g and thats pretty light

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    Aero... like Merlin said, alot of pros use aero rims on mountain stages too. If you look at video from recent pro events you'll see 404 depth rims are common and some even run 808 depth on the rear. I use a 303 404 combo, which is really light (like 1100 - 1200 grams or so). I think that's plenty light for anything.

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    For your size, I'd go with 808s or 404s at least.

    I run 303s on the road. I Run 1080/808 combo on TT. I aspire to be 156 in season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
    Thats just a stout weight/BF % for being that short.


    Oh and go aero... You guys down in LA have no hills worth worrying about
    foolish statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
    foolish statement
    Louisiana, not Los Angeles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
    foolish statement
    The highest point in Louisiana is Driskill "mountain": 535 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
    foolish statement
    God I love people from CA.

    Precious. Absolutely precious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    God I love people from CA.

    Precious. Absolutely precious.
    and....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
    foolish statement
    Quote Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
    and....
    The OP is from Lafayette, LA.

    LA, being, you know, Louisiana.

    The self absorption is mind boggling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    The OP is from Lafayette, LA.

    LA, being, you know, Louisiana.

    The self absorption is mind boggling.
    because i made the mistake of not seeing that the OP is from Lafayette means i am self absorbed...i fail to see the connection...

    but while you're at it are there any other faults that i apparently have that you would like to point out cool guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
    because i made the mistake of not seeing that the OP is from Lafayette means i am self absorbed...i fail to see the connection...

    but while you're at it are there any other faults that i apparently have that you would like to point out cool guy?
    Sentence structure and capitalization protocol?







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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
    Oh and go aero... You guys down in LA have no hills worth worrying about
    3 mile climb at 8-10% to my apartment...and I don't live at the top. Torrance Beach in the foreground.



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    for ****'s sake... LA without periods is the abbreviation for the state of Louisiana. L.A. is Los Angeles. Do you narcissistic clowns get it now?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
    for ****'s sake... LA without periods is the abbreviation for the state of Louisiana. L.A. is Los Angeles. Do you narcissistic clowns get it now?!
    You should probably search to see how people actually on BF before you respond in such an ass hat manner. Cold weather must make people mean. I think I'll stay here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbayoo View Post
    You should probably search to see how people actually on BF


    Aero. I've raced in LA. Both of them.

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