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    Tour of California - best group of Pro riders ever to race in the US?

    Great roster here:

    http://velonews.com/article/87172/to...s-for-the-race



    Is this the best group of riders ever to race in the US?

    Don't know the caliber of the riders from way back at the Coors Classic. Obviously the Atlanta Olympics would have brought a lot of top riders for the road race and TTs.

    Some very big names on the list:

    Lance Armstrong (USA)
    Levi Leipheimer (USA)
    Christopher Horner (USA)
    Yaroslav Popovych (UKR)
    Andy Schleck (LUX)
    Fränk Schleck (LUX)
    Fabian Cancellara (SUI)
    Gustav Larsson (SWE)
    Jens Voigt (GER)
    Juan José Haedo (ARG)
    Stuart O'Grady (AUS)
    George Hincapie (USA)
    Mark Cavendish (GBR)
    Adam Hansen (AUS)
    Kim Kirchen (LUX)
    Michael Rogers (AUS)
    Christian Vande Velde (USA)
    Svein Tuft (CAN)
    David Zabriskie (USA)
    Tom Boonen (BEL)
    Oscar Freire Gomez (ESP)
    Ivan Basso (ITA)
    Alessandro Vanotti (ITA)
    Cyril Dessel (FRA)
    Tadej Valjavec (SLO)
    Carlos Sastre (ESP)
    Thor Hushovd (NOR)
    Floyd Landis (USA)
    Oscar Sevilla
    Tyler Hamilton
    Francisco Mancebo
    Victor Hugo Pena
    Freddy Rodriguez

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    Coors.

    LeMond, Hinault.
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    I dunno, the Hell of the West races was pretty stacked. You had Kevin Costner, the evil Russian guy, The Cannibal, Kevin Costner's brother and Eddy merckx announcing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post
    I dunno, the Hell of the West races was pretty stacked. You had Kevin Costner, the evil Russian guy, The Cannibal, Kevin Costner's brother and Eddy merckx announcing.
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    Is this the best group of riders ever to race in the US?
    Probably not. 1996 Olympic Games or 1986 World Road Race Championships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    Coors.

    LeMond, Hinault.
    Were there any other big Euro names there? Looking for a start list now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic1 View Post
    Probably not. 1996 Olympic Games or 1986 World Road Race Championships.
    Lance wasn't at either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ih8lucky13 View Post
    Lance wasn't at either.
    LOL. Cycling existed before 1999 apparently.

    Actually, he raced Atlanta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic1 View Post
    LOL. Cycling existed before 1999 apparently.

    Actually, he raced Atlanta.
    Yes but that was when he was Lance Armstrong...... Now he is Lance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    Coors.

    LeMond, Hinault.
    ok, that's two. any other big names in that race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam View Post
    Were there any other big Euro names there? Looking for a start list now...
    Selected names from 1986 Coors from some results and pics I have in a book

    Hinault
    Lemond
    Anderson
    Hampsten
    Kuum
    Argentin
    Alcala
    Ugrumov
    Phinney
    Van der Poel
    Kiefel
    Knickman
    Pierce
    Van Vliet
    Cornillet
    Bauer
    Lauritzen
    J-F Bernard
    Pelier
    Ducrot
    De Rooy
    Konyshev
    Duclo Lasalle
    Piasecki

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    Naw, the Euro's didn't really send their best teams to Coors back in the day. Not that those guys are losers, but the ToC field is definitely more stacked; teams are sending their A-list roster.

    So yeah, I'd say it's the best stage race field ever. But the Worlds or Olympics would have to be "best field ever in the US"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
    Naw, the Euro's didn't really send their best teams to Coors back in the day. Not that those guys are losers, but the ToC field is definitely more stacked; teams are sending their A-list roster.

    So yeah, I'd say it's the best stage race field ever. But the Worlds or Olympics would have to be "best field ever in the US"
    Sorry, but I'd take Hinault, Lemond, Alcala and Argentin over the top 4 on the ToC list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    Sorry, but I'd take Hinault, Lemond, Alcala and Argentin over the top 4 on the ToC list.
    Thats a tough one. The only rider in the TOC who can match Hinault and Lemond is Lance, but I think a lot of the riders match better with Alcala and Argentin.

    ITs almost a toss up, I am just glad this is one of the best fields in a long time on domestic soil.
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    Why no mention of Tour DuPont?
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    Hinault vs. Lance- Bernie won everything, bonus for winning Paris Roubaix. +2 Coors

    Lemond vs. Contrador- Lemond won just about everything +1 Coors

    Hampsten vs. Sastre- Both GT winners. Normally lean towards the TDF but Sastre will never have a poster of him covered in snow going over the Gavia +1 Coors

    Phinney vs. Cavendish- Winingest US rider evuh. Created Mini-Phinney +1 Coors

    Argentin vs. Boonen- Argentin won more classics, including Liege 3 times in a row. Boonen won Paris Roubaix twice. Tie.

    Kiefel vs Voigt- Best 'fro in pro racing evuh vs the guy who once downed an entire Slurpee in one gulp and ended up on the ground with the worst brain freeze evuh. +1 TOC

    Anderson vs Liepheimer- Neither won a grand tour. Anderson spent more days in the yellow jersey, much broader palomares including 2 classics wins. +1 Coors

    On doping suspensions you have to go with the TOC though. And If I was building a TTT team you could do some serious damage with the TOC crew if you could just get Levi to pull through for once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic1 View Post
    Probably not. 1996 Olympic Games or 1986 World Road Race Championships.
    boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    Lemond vs. Contrador- Lemond won just about everything +1 Coors
    This is a tough comparison, Contador's just getting started; but still, the guy's won all three GT's. Even saying that only results to the present are included, it's tough to give this one to Lemond.

    Of course, if you're talking 1986 or something, and as such are including Hinault, you'd have to say that the 'fair' comparison is Lemond's results up until 86.

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    Tour of California is in February when most of the riders are far from peak form and are not targeting the race. When was the '86 Coors Classic? July? +1 Coors

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmh View Post
    Tour of California is in February when most of the riders are far from peak form and are not targeting the race. When was the '86 Coors Classic? July? +1 Coors
    It wasn't in July I think a race somewhere in Europe, you might have heard of takes place every July.
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    Phinney getting pissy... and then winning:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI8WHD_YlGk

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    Coors Classic was in August. 1985 was the first year it started in San Francisco - I was a course marshall for the Prologue up to Coit Tower and the Fisherman's Wharf Criterium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post
    I dunno, the Hell of the West races was pretty stacked. You had Kevin Costner, the evil Russian guy, The Cannibal, Kevin Costner's brother and Eddy merckx announcing.
    And Alexandra Paul.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ih8lucky13 View Post
    It wasn't in July I think a race somewhere in Europe, you might have heard of takes place every July.
    oops. August.

    The point is that many of the fast guys at ToC are just there to race themselves into shape. They aren't going for the win.

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