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Old 03-05-09, 06:49 AM   #1
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How much are you paying for a one day race where you are?

Could be a crit, could be a road race, could be a training race.



The fees went up 50% from last year, so I'm now shelling out €3

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Old 03-05-09, 06:51 AM   #2
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Usually $40, sometimes as high as $75
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typically $30
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Examples extracted from www.bikereg.com:

Upper Marlboro, MD - Tradezone Training Series (Criterium) - $15 per race

New Holland, Lancaster, PA Spring Training Series (Criterium) - $60 for the series or $17 per race and $5 for a second race (Sunday's March 1 - 29)

Charlottesville, VA - Jefferson Cup Road Race 2009 - $35

Lancaster, PA - Millport Road Race - $34

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Old 03-05-09, 07:12 AM   #5
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$15-$20 for training race
$100/season for weekly(~14 weeks) Tues nighter
$30-$35 for a regular race
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Old 03-05-09, 07:16 AM   #6
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My perceived value for an industrial park crit is $30 max. $20 would be fine. Anything less is cheap. (A weekly series I do is $10 per week, so that's great).

I don't do road races, but my perceived value for a RR would be $20 more. $10 more for any city crit, i.e. one that involves road closures and cops. I know it costs a LOT of money to do these events so my perceived value goes up.

Figure for every $1000 more in prize money ($2000 is assumed for 8 or so fields of racers), another $1-2 entry. So a $10k prize list city crit would be like $50-$60.

For mtb racing (I know, wrong forum) I think it should be like $10. Virtually no expenses to hold a mtb race, and no one expects prize money either.

Of course my perception and reality may be two completely different things. I'll register for "real" races once I see how my legs, team, and van are going.

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3 Euro's??? So college students, retired and kids under 12 get a discount for 1Euro fifty or what?

Man, that is cheap.
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The fees went up 50% from last year, so I'm now shelling out €3
smart ass Botto

Yes, I remember the days of giving 110 Belgian Francs to the inschriven, then getting 100 back after the race. Was like $.33US (33 cents) to race 110km. Man those were the days.

Typical P12 in Florida is now $35, plus late fees of $5-7. And we always race both days. So that's $70-80, plus hotels, plus gas, plus new tires, plus extra calories, plus families needs, plus..............
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I pay with pain. I usually can't cover the expenses though....



$25-$35 for the most part. Many seem to be $25. 2nd race is usually $10-$15 more.
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Usually about $30, maybe $10 for additional races.
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$15 to $30... and thank you for rubbing our noses in it.
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The Euro races are subsidized by race license costs. I think 15 years ago a Belgian license cost $300/year (i.e. 10x USCF), and back then I don't think I paid much more than $20 to race in the US. So you either pay up front or you pay when you race.

Since I paid for a USCF license ($28 then? mebbe $10 more for international) and raced for free (sort of) in Belgium, it was the best of both worlds. I met at least one other US rider who was doing that, except he was racing for the whole year there.

The Euro races also had either 20 or 40 places, and I think they paid very little. The prize money was paid for by the federation, if my info is correct. Since I don't promote races there, and I never came close to finishing a race, I have no idea if this is right or not.

What was much nicer in Europe is that you can race Wed, Sat, and Sun every week, 200 riders a race. That's pretty cool. I've read that racing is more frequent during the summer (I was there in March/April).

The only bad part is that the guys there (at least the races I entered) race so fast I'd need a motorcycle to keep up.

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there is a $50 road race in the dc area this year. wtf
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Tad cheaper in NL. €77 for a amateur B or A license. More for an elite. Maybe less for a C.

The money for the €3 depends on how big the field is, paying as much as 10 deep, to as few as 3 deep. Not the same as Belgium, but this isn't as hard as Belgium.

The good thing is that come May/June there's races on Monday, Tuesday, Wedneday, Thursday, Staurday, all within a 10 km ride, and one on Sundays that's a 20km ride away.
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$15 for the weekly training race at Portland International Raceway.

$20-25 for road races, crits, and 'cross races.

$75-100 for three day stage races.
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Most Lancaster, PA cat 3 races = $35
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Tuesday nighters pre-reg for whole series can be <$10/race. RR seem to push about $40. I'm only doing Tuesday night races for the most part this year and bang for buck is part of that (but only one factor of several).
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there is a $50 road race in the dc area this year. wtf
which one is that?

typical is $25 - $35 for a weekend race, regardless of crit/RR
wed. race is $15 during the summer

bike racers are a funny lot of people. folks on $5k worth of equipment for their hobby ***** and moan about having to spend $30 to use it.

by comparison, tryathletes spend up to $500/entry for these iron man things they do, sell out in minutes or have to reserve years in advance, and aside from like 3 or 4 people that enter, have no shot in hell of winning anything.
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^^ fair point. I swear the tri geeks all have money trees. Meanwhile BD has to get discounted tires shipped to his office.
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Figure for every $1000 more in prize money ($2000 is assumed for 8 or so fields of racers), another $1-2 entry. So a $10k prize list city crit would be like $50-$60.



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Which raises another question, why do we have prize money, other than for the Pro's? To my knowledge, other amatuer sports don't give out prize money to other than elite competitors, (such as running, triathlon, masters swimming.)

Is anybody below the Pro, perhaps Cat1 level doing this to make money? Would anyone try less if there wasn't $30 on the line?

Personally, I'd take a lower entry fee, and no prize money. Of course, this is from the perspective of someone who is routinely subsidizing those who win the prize money.
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which one is that?

typical is $25 - $35 for a weekend race, regardless of crit/RR
wed. race is $15 during the summer
walkersville 1/2/3 is $47
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25 – 40 CND. However, short stage races/ omniums are so popular around here they make up most of the schedule. They are usually $80 for 3 stages.

To be sanctioned, half of the entry fees have to be returned to the racers in payouts; so I don’t support bare minimum pricing.
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Would anyone try less if there wasn't $30 on the line?
I will never be racing to make money but prize money does matter to some. $30 may not be much to you but for some people on really tight budgets it allows them to race again.
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