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Old 03-06-09, 10:37 PM
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eWang/eTang/eThang

Originally Posted by ZeCanon
sitting pretty at 138lbs (62.6kg) right now, a bit over 5'10" tall.

I want to see a big eWang list. Someone should start an eWang thread. eWang claims must be backed up with graphage, and normalized power does NOT count for FTP.
Ok, let's do this. Anyone who's offended by wangs, go find another thread.

Let's stick with this season's wangs, not all-time-best wangs, unless you clearly present it as yer bestest evar.

Guidelines:
Profile - highlight your W/kg
Supporting graphs - set a gridline at the averages
FTP - if you don't have a 60' test, then explain which of the 6 other deadly sins you used to estimate it
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Ok, here it is. I used Monod with the 5' and 19' tests to come up with 338W FTP. I wish it was higher, but the more long intervals I do, the more that looks like the number.

77.6kg this morning (and for the tests below)

None of us are pros (that I know of), so none of us should expect to have proWangs









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Here is mine I just finished 20 min. ago on the rollers. Don't laugh, thanks.
Entire workout (253 watts):
Duration: 19:58
Work: 303 kJ
TSS: 37.4 (intensity factor 1.06)
Norm Power: 254
VI: 1.01
Pw:HR: -5.25%
Pa:HR: -3.07%
Distance: 9.944 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 188 338 253 watts
Heart Rate: 135 169 158 bpm
Cadence: 88 116 98 rpm
Speed: 23.8 36.4 29.9 mph
Pace 1:39 2:31 2:00 min/mi
Hub Torque: 51 64 56 lb-in
Crank Torque: 176 252 218 lb-in


Given the deadly sin that a 20 min. test equals FTP=95% of avg power, I'm right at 240W for FTP.
At 86kg this puts my fat ass at 2.8W/kg.

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i don't have a program that doesn't automatically do NP?...what do i do?
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WR, I have wang envy.
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What do we call the person with the biggest wang?
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I will be doing some testing soon...

Started base training a couple weeks ago after doing strength all winter...

First race is not until end of June so I got a ways to go...

I do feel stronger even if the numbers don't say yet...


I did 10 sec spin ups yesterday and was just below my PB 5 sec power last year, still eWang "Untrained" ( I ain't no sprinter)...

I am going to some 5 min hillclimb repeats today and will get back to this thread...

I hope to see some good numbers after I hack out a lung...
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Originally Posted by Apus^2
What do we call the person with the biggest wang?
Wang Chung?
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I aint got no charts so insert grain of salt/seeds of doubt:

these are all from this season:

CP120: 3.56
FTP: 4.22
CP20': 4.48
CP5': 5.2
CP1: dunno... aint tested since last year (9.19 was best from last season)
CP5": 16.1 (HAHAHAHA, first sprints in 6 months, yesterday)


All I've done is VO2 intervals or longer, so low end power really is a huge limiter now. I'm hoping to adress that in the nest 6 weeks.

(e WANG!!!!!)

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Here is my profile from WKO. I'll post the graphs for each "best" when I have some more time. I have my FTP at 300 right now. I had done a monod test about a month ago that put me at 290 but recently from workouts, etc. it was clear I had to bump it up. I've done several 20 minute intervals at > 300 and did 90 min at 300 NP last week. The FT bar is fairly low because I don't do hour long TT's



note: 56 days per bin.
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My eWang is camera shy.
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Its always the guy that is hung to his knees that wants to get out the ruler ...
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Its always the guy that is hung to his knees that wants to get out the ruler ...
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Originally Posted by botto
Wrong thread. That's the "Can't See Wang" profile.
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Originally Posted by ljrichar
Wang Chung?
No
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Originally Posted by botto
Looks like your power is going up predictably, but it's going to head backwards if you keep going.
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currently @ 3.19 w/kg (83kg.. goal 79kg), trying desperately to get rid of my 5-10lbs of extra weight and bring the power up.. goal of 4.0w/kg.
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Waterrockets, does WKO fill in the E-wang chart automatically for you? Or did you do it yourself?
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My wang is busted. I hope to find it somewhere in May or June.
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Wang tough.
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Originally Posted by cedricbosch
Waterrockets, does WKO fill in the E-wang chart automatically for you? Or did you do it yourself?
I DIY for two reasons:
-It's easier for me to see the history my way
-I don't do 60' tests, so FTP is way off and doesn't track over time

Here's mine from WKO+ though:
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Looks like your power is going up predictably, but it's going to head backwards if you keep going.
if today's race is anything to go by, there is no power.
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I haven't done much of any testing this season except for 1 minute. My FTP is approx 300-305 watts based on interval sessions and racing numbers. At 65kg that puts me at about 4.6-4.7 w/kg.
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With no scientific backing to this, I'm sure it's a tad above 3 W/kg.
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