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Old 03-13-09, 03:54 PM   #1
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How are most omniums scored if you register for GC and skip TT

I have an omnium tomorrow that will require me to jump through serious hoops with the family that I would like to avoid. As I result, I will likely only race the crit and road race. Question: How do most race organizers score an omnium for racers who DNS or DNF the TT?

This is a Georgia Cup race in Rome, GA. I am hoping that they only give points for the top 3 so that I don't have to feel like I'm really missing out. If points go 5 or 10 deep, then I may want to consider jumping through some hoops to get there.

How do most races handle DNF and DNS on TT's for points in the overal GC classification?
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Old 03-13-09, 04:11 PM   #2
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If it really is an omnium, then you just get points for each stage. Skipping a stage = no points. The flyer should say how deep each stage goes.
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Old 03-13-09, 05:33 PM   #3
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most of the omniums i've done disqualify you from the overall if you skip one of the portions of the event.
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Old 03-13-09, 05:46 PM   #4
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most of the omniums i've done disqualify you from the overall if you skip one of the portions of the event.
Then it's not an omnium...
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It depends on how they do the scoring.

Following the way most track events work, the winner of each event gets the most points, then second place gets fewer, and so on. If you skip an event you get no points, so it's the same as finishing outside the points.

There's a relatively new international track event (held at world cups and worlds) called the "international omnium" where it's 5 events (3 TT, 2 mass start) held over the course of a day. In each event, first place=1 pt, 2nd=2 pts, 3rd=3 pts, and so on. Lowest total score at the end wins. Riders are DQ if they fail to complete an event (there's no way to apply a score, especially if more than one skipped any event). So you can most definitely have an omnium where you have to complete all events.

The chance of points going only 3 deep is pretty small-- track omniums, where the max number of riders on a 250 m track is 24, give points 5 deep (7,5,3,2,1). I'd expect a road race to award points pretty deep- the points classification rule for stage racing gives points 15 deep unless it's otherwise announced in the race announcement/race bible.
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Old 03-13-09, 06:08 PM   #6
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And usually omnium points go 10-20 deep.
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In the omnium we're doing this weekend, points go 15 deep in cat 4 and cat 3, and 25 deep in 1/2
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I just did the Albany omnium last weekend, and crashed out of the crit. They still scored me for the overall by awarding me the DNF time (110% of the last finisher).
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Omnium = zero points for DNF/DNS.
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According to the Georgia Cup website all you have to do is register for all events to be eligible for the omnium. You actually have to register and start and finish each race if it's a stage race. If I'm not mistaken last year you had to start each event in the omnium to be eligible. Not sure if that was to try and get more people to pay for all events or to reward those who at least attempted all events. Obviously this year it is about the money and not really the participation...
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