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    +30 mm. Aluminum Rim?

    The front and rear rims of my Soul 2.0s have been knocked out of true (past the point of being able to be fixed by re-truing the spokes, there's actual rim damage. I'm going to talk to sean about replacements or see what he can do, but that's a different story) in different incidents.

    Long story short, I'm looking for a new set of rims.

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    - more than 30 mm. section (no RR1.2s, CXP 33s, or IRD/Niobium Aeros, plz)
    - aluminum (don't think I can justify carbon rims until I upgrade to the 3s)

    Can you buy just rims like this? The hubs and spokes are fine (other than a couple), so I'd rather not buy a whole new wheelset. Thanks!

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    The only rims over 30mm I know of are H+Son, which are heavy and crap. Other than that, there are the American Classic 420 and Soul S4.0, but those are complete wheels. I've heard that Sean doesn't sell bare rims, but you could call American Classic and ask about theirs, since I hear they sell replacement rims for people who break theirs.
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    You'll probably need different length spokes if you're switching to a different model rim.
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    maybe sean can rebuild your 2.0s on 4.0 rims for cheap. cheapish.
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    Velocity's B43 (coming out soon) is 43mm deep.
    the hipster myth.

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    b43

    Quote Originally Posted by queerpunk View Post
    Velocity's B43 (coming out soon) is 43mm deep.

    pretty bomber rim!(pun)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler View Post
    pretty bomber rim!(pun)

    http://velocityusa.blogspot.com/
    Looks strong, but it will be a porker! Probably will be marketed more for track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiewilson3 View Post
    Probably will be marketed more for track.
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    either way they will probably be 500+ grams

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    The 30mm deep v is already like 580g, so this guy will probably be more like high 600's and maybe over 700. The reinforcement bridge will kill you on weight.

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    I might consider a b43 on the rear for a training set. (i would also race on them because i'm poor)
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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
    The only rims over 30mm I know of are H+Son, which are heavy and crap. Other than that, there are the American Classic 420 and Soul S4.0, but those are complete wheels. I've heard that Sean doesn't sell bare rims, but you could call American Classic and ask about theirs, since I hear they sell replacement rims for people who break theirs.
    As far as I know, you can't get replacement rims for AC420's unless you're doing warranty replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElJamoquio View Post
    As far as I know, you can't get replacement rims for AC420's unless you're doing warranty replacement.
    Sounds like the OP is SOL.

    And if the Deep V weighs over 500g, I can only imagine what that monster weighs.
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    Deeep rims - some of these are now out of production *

    FIR Sc350*, Gipiemme Tecno 716 (limited distribution here, but available in the UK), Dodici (from VintagePista), DRC UFO Speed, FIR Super Rialto, Campagnolo Atlanta, American Classic AC420 (is available as a rim only in Europe), H+Son (this is aimed at street fixsters).

    Those are the ones I can think of. All or them are very hard to find. They lost favour with the onslaught of carbon fibre rims and largely went underground. Urban fixed wheel riders have bought up most of the remaining rims, but they are also the ones causing them to come back from the cold. Giant and Felt are stocking 40mm deep alloy rims on some of their TT/Track bikes, but you can't buy them separately.

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    Old school Campy Shamal?
    Die schokoladenseite des radfahrens.

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    Some of the above suggestions are ignoring the fact that the OP wants to rebuild on existing hubs and therefore needs a specific number of holes. I am unaware of any Shamal rim that came in a 24 hole drilling.
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    h plus son = 42mm @ 580g

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiewilson3 View Post
    The 30mm deep v is already like 580g, so this guy will probably be more like high 600's and maybe over 700. The reinforcement bridge will kill you on weight.
    Quote Originally Posted by dmotoguy View Post
    h plus son = 42mm @ 580g
    Jeeze, I didn't realize these were all so heavy. A full build is going to come in at like 2100+ grams.

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    get a protech carbon clincher... its ~415g / 30mm / $450

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    Rolf Prima Vigor (wheel) and another Rolf wheel (name escapes me) 34 mm aluminum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterot View Post
    Rolf Prima Vigor (wheel) and another Rolf wheel (name escapes me) 34 mm aluminum.
    It would take a little extra mathematics to lace a regular hub to a paired spoke rim. However, I think I've seen Rolf wheels with 14, 16, 18, 20, and 24 spokes. Not sure about 28, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
    It would take a little extra mathematics to lace a regular hub to a paired spoke rim.
    Just did it with my eyes closed. Try it.

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    I knew I should have majored in engineering, but NOOOOO, music was calling me.
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    Looks like my original hopes are out of the question. Plan B: carbon. I'm looking at the Williams 58 carbon clincher (and other ~40-60mm carbon clinchers, assuming Sean will warrantee my 2.0s).

    What's the advantage of a carbon wheel vs. an aluminum wheel of the same/similar height (ex: Soul 4.0, AC 420)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arexjay View Post
    Looks like my original hopes are out of the question. Plan B: carbon. I'm looking at the Williams 58 carbon clincher (and other ~40-60mm carbon clinchers, assuming Sean will warrantee my 2.0s).

    What's the advantage of a carbon wheel vs. an aluminum wheel of the same/similar height (ex: Soul 4.0, AC 420)?
    Weight.

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