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    Can you guys weigh in on this?

    Ok, so obviously it goes unsaid that training is my #1 priority to everything below but this year I'll be treating myself to a few things as the season unfolds. The reason I have not put coaching on the list is because I want to wait till next year when I know a little more.

    Here are a few of the items I'm considering this year and I was hoping maybe you more experienced racers would put em' in order to what you think would be the best investments to make first and what maybe are just a waste all together.

    1) New bike (later this summer) something to replace my trek 1500, it will be used for racing and training. It'd be replacing a 19.5 lb 9 spd trek 1500. I'm thinking a CAAD9 Ultegra or a Cervelo S1.

    2) Deep Section carbon rims, probably something like a used set of Easton EC90 Aeros or Tempest II's. Right now I'm on Easton EA70s (maybe this would just be a waste of money?)

    3) Power meter (Was thinking maybe it's a bit too early for this, maybe wait for next year?)

    Out of those things what would you go for first, or would you go for none? Maybe ya'll have some ideas I'm over looking. I know gear doesn't make the rider but I like gear and feel like making some upgrades this year since I didn't really last year.

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    I'd say you should spend your money on getting the best "fuel" (healthy food!) for your training is more important than bike upgrades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mollusk View Post
    I'd say you should spend your money on getting the best "fuel" (healthy food!) for your training is more important than bike upgrades.
    I agree, but I eat extremely healthy diet is a very serious part of my life and it has been for awhile. Seriously a junk food night for me would be having a bowl of granola after dinner. I'm training as much as my body can handle right now (without me getting overloaded between work obligations and social obligations). I'm eating right, and I'm still saving money in the bank for what it's worth.

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    I'd say power meter before all else.

    19.5 lbs isn't all that heavy for a race bike. You could probably shave atleast a pound off it by getting rival and some other parts here and there.

    I'd get a used PT laced to something semi aero or aero or a quarq/srm used.
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    Power Meter. You will learn a lot about yourself with it, and then down the line if you want coaching you will have a headstart. I would advise against trying to get too structured with it right away, and use it for training and racing performance analysis.

    When you start getting competitive, race wheels would probably be a good bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
    I agree, but I eat extremely healthy diet is a very serious part of my life and it has been for awhile. Seriously a junk food night for me would be having a bowl of granola after dinner. I'm training as much as my body can handle right now (without me getting overloaded between work obligations and social obligations). I'm eating right, and I'm still saving money in the bank for what it's worth.
    Good for you! Most folks feeling the $ pinch opt toward eating crap food.
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    I also think a power meter is good if you intend on training seriously. Wheels are also a big upgrade, so invest in that as well. The Trek 1500 isn't a terrible frame, but you could benefit from a slight upgrade (like to a CAAD9, as you're planning).

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mollusk View Post
    Good for you! Most folks feeling the $ pinch opt toward eating crap food.
    Or those that live in more expensive areas like where my school is. Eating healthy is MUCH more expensive than eating junk, unless you can actually make all of your food yourself.

    My diet is completely junk-free, and runs me upwards of $10-$15/day. If I bring my own food, I can spend as little as $5.
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    I figured I'd hear a lot on the power meter... I also figured upgrading from EA70 to EC90 Aeros might not be the biggest jump either.

    The 1500 is ok, I'm getting a professional fitting on it next Tuesday. I don't want to put anymore money into it in the drive train I'd rather just wait till I upgrade, plus riding on 9spd isn't a big deal.

    I wouldn't get the PM laced to the racing hubs I don't think but I could lace it to a Mavic Open Pro maybe?

    Keep um coming, I'm putting some money in the bank for emergencies (i just got outta debt) and then in a few months I should be able to purchase either wheels or a PM laced to a rim, or I could wait a lil longer and get a new bike.

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    Powermeter! I do have mine laced to a Open Pro wheel with 32 spokes. Weighs a ton compared to other wheels, but I still got 3rd place last weekend .. out of a field of 12 or so, but who's counting, eh?
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    I've had thoughts of just keeping the 1500 for the rest of the season and getting maybe a set of race wheels and power meter, do most of you guys race with power meters or do you just train with it?

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    I think, especially early on, you will learn more from racing with it than you will from training with it. Once you've been using it for a while, it may not matter as much.

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    I race with it. Set a new PR for 1' and 5" power during the race last weekend.
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    Diet and food is not a magic formula. Everything you eat consists of carbo's fat, and protein. As long as you get the proper combination, it doesn't make a difference what food it comes from. Just stick with something that makes sense - breakfast of cereal and grain (bread) and fruit, lunch a combo of carbo and grain, and dinner of protein and veggie's and you're set.

    A powermeter gives you the largest training improvement. Wheels provide the biggest speed increase. A new bike forces you to push more because of the financial investment - you want to push because you spent the money.
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

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    nick you saw my thread about my American Classics right?? That could happen to anyone in any crit race. I think a carbon wheelset for racing crits is an accident waiting to happen... not to mention a minimal increase in performance... and since you (and me) are not made of money and can't get a new $5000 frameset yearly the carbon rims are probably not practical race bling. It's a tool not a jewel (which i think you understand if you want a caad9). That being said I am ordering my powertap next week... Basically everyone who has one and uses it correctly says it's the best training tool available.

    As for the bike... a buddy of mine has the s1 but he likes it too much (thinks its too nice) to race on. Buy the caad9 race animal and ride the sh** out of it.
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    Oh ya how did the VO2 test go?
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    Powertap. That plus a good training plan is like the best thing ever. Get the bling wheels last.

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    Powertap, used. But only if you have a good cushion of $$$ built up. If you work in an industry/company where layoffs are a possibility, just build the cushion and use your money to get to races and buy consumeables.

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    Well I guess I'll look into a power meter, I think I might check out the quarq though, don't want to be limited with wheels... as long as I can set up their system on a 9 speed drive train...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
    Well I guess I'll look into a power meter, I think I might check out the quarq though, don't want to be limited with wheels... as long as I can set up their system on a 9 speed drive train...
    Should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
    Should be fine.

    If you get the PT, buy my crank you doofus
    You mean if I get the Quarq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
    You mean if I get the Quarq?
    Negative. Shimano cranks don't work with the quarq. I meant the powertap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
    Negative. Shimano cranks don't work with the quarq. I meant the powertap.
    Why would I need your crank if I bought a power tap I have a perfectly good ultegra crank!

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    Well sounds like I should be looking at a power tap used before anything else...

    I could frankly prob afford a used power tap set up and a set of easton ec90 aero race wheels. That or a new bike, but not both.

    If those Reynolds DV46T's come up for 900 on Bonk Town again and I have the cash I'm not going to be able to say no lol.

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    Is the Trek currently your only bike?

    If so, I'd get the new bike and keep the Trek. It's nice to have a backup for when you're main bike goes down, or as a rain bike, spare wheel source, etc etc. If nothing else, it's a cheap way to get a full set of spare parts, and a new bike can be very motivational.

    The EA70s are decent wheels, I would (do) keep them for racing.

    I know Powertap is the standard answer for these kinds of questions (and it's hard to argue against it) but FWIW...

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