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Old 03-20-09, 09:35 AM   #1
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When will cycling coverage catch up to NASCAR?

I'm talking full HD coverage, bubble callouts for riders with power, speed, heartrate like NASCAR does. Certain riders "mic'd up" like they do in the NBA and NFL. Live streaming of all races like the NCAA is doing with the tournament.

What's your over/under on 2015?

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isn't nascar basically a crit in bowl?
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Cycling hasn't been popular in America since, what, the 20s? I'd say this is about as big as it's getting. As it is, the major sports are already losing interest to cable tv, and the myriad other sports that now exist.
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...bubble callouts for riders with power, speed, heartrate...
Please god, no.
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isn't nascar basically a crit in bowl?
The similarities between crit racing and NASCAR on a restrictor-plate track (i.e. the really big ones) are pretty pronounced. The only real difference is that in a crit, the sprint at the end is more interesting. All the rest is the same, just stay out of the wind, don't crash and conserve fuel.
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can someone tell me how the RBR entrance exam is progressing?
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Oh ya, and I don't expect bike racing to ever get that popular....
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Red Bull Racing?
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The similarities between crit racing and NASCAR on a restrictor-plate track (i.e. the really big ones) are pretty pronounced. The only real difference is that in a crit, the sprint at the end is more interesting. All the rest is the same, just stay out of the wind, don't crash and conserve fuel.
have you raced a criterium?
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have you raced a criterium?
Yes. Someone like you might be on the nose of the thing the entire time. I'm not.

Have you raced cars on an oval?
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Yes. Someone like you might be on the nose of the thing the entire time. I'm not.

Have you raced cars on an oval?
nope, never. but I have raced lots of crits, there is way more to them than staying out the wind and conserving fuel, way more.
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The similarities between crit racing and NASCAR on a restrictor-plate track (i.e. the really big ones) are pretty pronounced. The only real difference is that in a crit, the sprint at the end is more interesting. All the rest is the same, just stay out of the wind, don't crash and conserve fuel.
there you go, proof positive that nascar is boring.
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Why would you not want to see power? That would be cool to see the power output of someone trying to bridge up to a break. Or maybe to see the power ramp up in the peloton in the lead up to a sprint.

What would also be cool would be delayed broadcasts with the race radio audio compiled together to give you an idea of things that were discussed and different strategies. I'm guessing the teams might not want that stuff broadcast even after the race is over though.
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When bike racing attains the audience of NASCAR in the US. I wouldn't hold your breath.
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there you go, proof positive that nascar is boring.
I agree. Show up for the last 5 minutes, and you'll pretty much get the gist of the race.

In terms of crit tactics, I'd love to learn more. At my low level (Cat 4), I haven't seen team tactics play a huge part of anything. I've probably been in about 40 bike races, but many more car races. At the higher levels there are all sorts of strategies and sub-plots in both disciplines, but at the lower levels it's mostly about finishing.
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When bike racing attains the audience of NASCAR in the US. I wouldn't hold your breath.
...one of the reasons why this is difficult is because NASCAR, and a lot of other sports too, have arenas full of paying customers who then go on to pay nine bucks for a Bud Light, twelve bucks for a ratty hot dog, et cetera. They are also a captive audience to advertisers.
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isn't nascar basically a crit in bowl?
Worse. It's like a really long scratch race on a large velodrome.
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They already show power/HR/cadence/speed for most of the Tour stages.

And SRM has live telemetry streaming.
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Oie, given that I live 30 minutes from Bristol Raceway, and seeing how CRAZY this area goes for NASCAR, and how crazy they get when a few cyclist slow down their drive - I doubt 2015 would even be close.

Maybe if we were forced to become a bike-centric society then it may happen, until then.... not a chance.

Btw... it's "race weekend" here this weekend - excellent time to get out and ride as everyone is up in Bristol.
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Oie, given that I live 30 minutes from Bristol Raceway, and seeing how CRAZY this area goes for NASCAR, and how crazy they get when a few cyclist slow down their drive - I doubt 2015 would even be close.

Maybe if we were forced to become a bike-centric society then it may happen, until then.... not a chance.

Btw... it's "race weekend" here this weekend - excellent time to get out and ride as everyone is up in Bristol.
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