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Old 03-20-09, 11:19 AM   #1
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Training wheels

Here's one of the those questions where you know the answer, but you ask anyway because you need the confirmation of others to make a decision.

The dilemma, I have Reynolds Assaults and I planned on buying another set of wheels for training. I am training with my wife’s wheels and she has already expressed her dissatisfaction with this. I am sick of spending money on bike stuff right now and I am thinking of just training on the Reynolds. It's rather Fred (IMO) to use deep section carbon rims for training and I don't want to prematurely wear down my racing wheels.

I guess there are two questions here. First, you all have racing AND training wheels right? Two, if I end up getting another set (I most likely will bite the bullet) do you have any suggestions on a cheap, lightish (training on hills) set that you have experience with?
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Old 03-20-09, 11:25 AM   #2
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If I were going to get a set of purely training wheels right now, it'd be the Williams 30x. Good rims, good hubs, good price, lots of spokes and not too heavy. I'm not a clyde, but getting the 'x' version of the wheel makes sense for this application. If I was feeling particularly rich, then I'd throw in the Powertap hub.

I have a set of Williams 19's already, and my experience with them has been all positive.
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standard mavic op on whatever hubs, or askiums, or something to that effect.

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If I were going to get a set of purely training wheels right now, it'd be the Williams 30x. Good rims, good hubs, good price, lots of spokes and not too heavy. I'm not a clyde, but getting the 'x' version of the wheel makes sense for this application. If I was feeling particularly rich, then I'd throw in the Powertap hub.

I have a set of Williams 19's already, and my experience with them has been all positive.
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I'm outing myself here. I don't have any training wheels. I race and train on the same wheel set and same tires. Currently a 32 spoke Mavic OP in the rear and a Bontrager Race Lite in front.
Yeah, it might look Fred, but I couldn't care less. As long as I can hang with the 4's and 5's and maybe even stage a successful attack I'm a happy camper.
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training wheel cost < $350
askiums go for $250 new, so that is a good bet.
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Old 03-20-09, 11:41 AM   #6
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I got a set of 32/32h Mavic CXP 22's on Ultegra hubs for $220 brand new off ebay. You can't hardly beat that.
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Old 03-20-09, 01:33 PM   #7
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It seems like people are always selling nearly new or new tear off askiums for cheap. Pick up a set of those.
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Did someone say training wheels?

(i've seen these on the road before...)
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Get a cheap set of 32 spoke wheels for training. It's good to have a backup set of wheels anyway. Besides, eventually you might regret training on a $1500 set of wheels. Sh*t happens when you ride lots of miles, and I, for one, would rather it happen to a $200, 32 spoke wheelset than to a set of high zoot racing wheels.
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I'm outing myself here. I don't have any training wheels. I race and train on the same wheel set and same tires. Currently a 32 spoke Mavic OP in the rear and a Bontrager Race Lite in front.
Yeah, it might look Fred, but I couldn't care less. As long as I can hang with the 4's and 5's and maybe even stage a successful attack I'm a happy camper.
Technically, one might say that you don't have a set of racing wheels. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

I'm in the same boat. I've got a set of racing wheels on order, but many here would not consider them "racing" wheels, as they are not carbon and weigh about 1550g. They are just a fairly light set of aluminum clinchers with 30mm rims and low count, bladed spokes. Lighter and more aerodynamic than the 32 spoke Open Pro/Ultegra wheelsets I use currently.
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These are you need (Ultegra option)....
http://bicyclewheelwarehouse.com/ind...d&productId=37
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The Williams 30's would be a good training and racing set for you.
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Training wheels? Reynolds DV46Ts of course!

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The Williams 30's would be a good training and racing set for you.
Not according to Butt-o, and as we all know, he's the standard by which the world should be measured.

I would chose them for myself because I like having a decent set of wheels on something like a group hammer-fest ride or a Tuesday night crit, but the Reynolds are not necessary for either. Yes, an Open Pro would be fine to use as well, as would the Aksium's (although I don't personally like the looks of these) and they would be less money. None of these things would change the fact that I think the Williams are a better overall wheel.

B.R. - Those 30mm AL wheels at 1550grams probably share at least a few components (like rims) with the Williams. Which makes them a good all around wheelset.
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B.R. - Those 30mm AL wheels at 1550grams probably share at least a few components (like rims) with the Williams. Which makes them a good all around wheelset.
Oh, I'm sure the rims are pretty much the same; there's only one 30mm aluminum rim I know of (Niobium) that can be made into a 1500-1600g wheelset. But I'll train on my more durable/cheaper wheelsets. I weigh 185lbs, so riding every day on 20/24 spoke wheels is probably not the best use of my money. Hence, they're my race wheels.

Really, until you get into Cat3 or higher, a "racing wheelset" is basically just a place to hang a lightly used set of tires you know are in good shape and not worn and all cut up from training. I'll be shaving about half a pound from my bike with these wheels too, but that's just icing on the cake. They should be slightly more aerodynamic as well what with the low count, bladed spokes and the high profile rim. But it's not like slipping on a pair of Zipps and watch your bike weight fall by a couple lbs.
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