mattm

I haven't done any wix/msi(?) development, but I've been exposed to enough to know that it can get pretty complicated...

For simple stuff it should be straightforward, pick your binaries, install path, reg keys, and go.

mollusk

When you have a witch hunt you always have to find a witch. The fact that there is a way to not be a witch is a flaw in the logic.

agoodale

+1. If you keep it simple it's easy to use.

Flatballer

she ended up being a witch anyway, so does it really matter?

Flatballer

I'm getting maternity clothes ads. Which one of you is pregnant?

mollusk

I am worried about a couple of things.

There are about 6 different things to be installed and each one will require a test to see if they are already installed. To muck it up there may be newer versions of some that are incompatible with other things that need the older versions or they will not work. I would then have to force an uninstall of the newer versions and install the older ones. I'm guessing that I can "flag" this and give the user a choice. In such a case I would recommend that they install on a different machine and abort the installation but give the option to proceed.

And one of the installs requires two "exe" calls. The first one puts all the files into the right places (kind of an unzip deluxe) and the second calls an exe file that was just created and does the actual installation. Kind of weird.

I kind of want my fingers in this pie mostly because I can then create an iso image of an installation cd for my grad class and I will no longer have to deal with all of the "It doesn't work for me" problems with students that didn't follow directions.

botto 

sitting in an airport lounge, listening to some businessmen talk about george clooney's politics, women with dreadlocks, and other things they don't understand. feel like a spy.

mattm

@mollusk: Are you using an IDE (e.g. Visual Studio) to make the installer, or something else?

Via the VS IDE it should be pretty straight-forward, including custom exe file calls, upgrades, etc.

waterrockets 

I'm lucky to have been shielded from installers so far

mollusk

What if she hadn't weighed the same as a duck? Then what?

Of course there are the perpetual witch hunts. Those are "the best". The "boogie man" that is always there, but never found or completely eradicated, can be quite profitable to those exhorting the mob. "Communists in our midst" in the 1950's is an example. Current versions are left as an exercise. (It is an easy exercise, but not for this forum.)

ridethecliche

On actually coming back and racing.

Had a docs apt today for the knee. First off, I thought the doc was a prick because he wouldn't even look at my shoulder even though I told them before the appointment that I had been having shoulder issues which were part of the referral. Told me I'd have to make another appointment. Whatever.

Anyway, they took the xrays they wanted, and told me exactly what I was hoping they wouldn't. Yet again, patello-femoral syndrome. I like to call this diagnosis the "we don't really know wtf is going on with your knee, so we're going to send you to PT and see if that makes you better. If it doesn't we're going to do an MRI and then send you back to PT because we can't see anything wrong so it must be all in your head."

So I'm going to go back to PT. I have to go in for my back this week anyway, so maybe I'll set up something for my knee as well. If I can replicate what they're making me do in the gym, I'll stick to that. Strengthening the crapola outta my legs seems to be the way to go.

My 'dreams' of coming back and hitting it hard are slowly fading away. I guess I'm just going to concentrate on lifting and commute for miles with the occasional long ride if I'm feeling up for it. I don't even want to look at a bike after this crap.

mollusk

I can use whatever. VS is an option.

I can even purchase a third party program that thinks that I am an idiot.

mollusk

Which one is you?

mattm

Sorry to hear rtc, that's rough; at least you're young though... maybe there's still time to bounce back?

ridethecliche

I think that lifting will be better for the long term since it'll build up the necessary strength over time. I just need to get used to the fact that I'm not going to be racing again anytime in the near future. Seeing guys like umd, md, rx, wr, etc who got into this later in life and are still doing well gives me hope for the future.

It just sucks when life throws a curveball at you and demolishes the castles you'd built in the sky.

So. It. Goes.

waterrockets 

My knees were in a lot of pain when I was in my mid 20s. Lots. I moved to Austin and realized the benefits of a temperate and semi-arid climate. Very rarely to I experience knee pain.

FWIW, unless you hear otherwise from a PT or a Dr., I would avoid ANY activity that causes knee pain (or any joint). Find a way to use your muscles differently to avoid the pain or just stop the activity. In my experience, pushing through joint pain is counterproductive, and avoiding the pain is a good starting plan until you hear otherwise.

You might consider a chronic climate change though. Man, it helps the hell out of my joints (shoulders too). It took about a year or two for the effects to really be felt, but I'm seriously so much more active now.

shovelhd

rtc, very sorry to hear that. Do you have pain while commuting? Can you ride 40-50 miles without pain? Don't worry about racing now, work on getting healthy on the bike and in the gym. This is a great time of year for riding in New England. Maybe we can meet halfway and take a nice easy Z2 ride in Central Mass.

mollusk

+1

Lifting stresses muscles and the attachments and the joints. Being "good" for one does not mean that it good for all. If I were you RTC I would immediately stop lifting anything but really light loads at high reps.

I am not an MD and I have not even been in a Holiday Inn Express in years, so take may advice at your own risk.

Greg180

Man after my own heart. Paid my mortgage off in sixteen years. Every time I got an increase in salary 30% went to the mortgage, 30% to savings and the remainder to the household budget. Goal was to be debt free at 50. Made it at 46.

Nate552

Dang RTC, that sucks. Keep the hope.

echappist

Jeez RTC, sorry to hear about this...

Hopefully modern medicine will get you back to your former glory

wens

+1

ridethecliche

Thanks guys! Climate change isn't in my immediate future, but I make sure to be better about keeping the joint warm when riding.
As far as riding commuting doesn't bother my knees much and neither does an easy long ride. Only difference is the lifting which I have figured out so it helps instead of hurts.
I think I'll settle into a run or two a week,3 or 4 days lifting,a long ride every week, and then a couple of commutes...

Just strengthening my vmo has made a huge difference already. Going to keep at it and hope for the best.

shovelhd

If kicking an old guy's ass will help you feel better, my offer stands.

shovelhd

7 years left for us.