Too many matches?
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This is from the crit last night. I went anaerobic a lot, maybe this is normal? I went over 600 watts too many times to count. Thoughts?
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Matches are only lit if you had to go so deep and hard, you felt *****.
You usually don't have more than one or two of those in a race, and one of them has to be for the win. All those other 600w+ efforts you are talking about are not what I'd consider matches. |
Ah ok. Two laps to go I had very little left, and by the final 500m I was just trying to stay with the split that happened at the end and I couldn't make any power. I'm just trying to figure out what I could've done better, other than have more fitness.
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I was actually reading about "matches" on trainingpeak.com yesterday (in preperation for my powertap wheels). I won't even pretend to try to interpret your graph, but, their definition is:
As a starting point, I propose that for most riders and racers, a match can be defined as an effort in which you go over threshold power by at least 20% and hold it there for at least one minute. |
Originally Posted by YMCA
(Post 8641918)
Matches are only lit if you had to go so deep and hard, you felt *****.
You usually don't have more than one or two of those in a race, and one of them has to be for the win. All those other 600w+ efforts you are talking about are not what I'd consider matches. 1 - to make the break 2 - to split the break 3 - to win the race use them wisely. procrit: fwiw I think an attempted physiological definition of "matches" in terms of power is in another recent thread. your chart looks like a typical crit, kind of a "sine wave" if you smooth it out. |
Originally Posted by procrit
(Post 8642100)
Ah ok. Two laps to go I had very little left, and by the final 500m I was just trying to stay with the split that happened at the end and I couldn't make any power. I'm just trying to figure out what I could've done better, other than have more fitness.
I compared my file to a teammate who is a very good crit rider. He had A LOT less spikes, less than half what I did. He's one of those guys who can work his way around in a pack and always pop out up front. |
Originally Posted by Doggus
(Post 8642207)
He's one of those guys who can work his way around in a pack and always pop out up front.
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Originally Posted by YMCA
(Post 8641918)
Matches are only lit if you had to go so deep and hard, you felt *****.
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Originally Posted by YMCA
(Post 8641918)
Matches are only lit if you had to go so deep and hard, you felt *****.
You usually don't have more than one or two of those in a race, and one of them has to be for the win. |
Your graph looks just like mine. cat 4/5 training crits from last week. Wide turns, but still huge accelerations out of the turns nonetheless. Every turn I have 600-900W spikes.
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It's not the height of the spikes so much as the duration. See here for an article about creating a graph, or PM me the data and I'll plug it in my spreadsheet for you. It doesn't look like matches to me though.
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Originally Posted by Doggus
(Post 8642207)
Race smoother. I'm going through the same issue. I had a 1 hour crit where I spiked over 600 watts 111 times, 54 of those were 800 watt spikes.
I compared my file to a teammate who is a very good crit rider. He had A LOT less spikes, less than half what I did. He's one of those guys who can work his way around in a pack and always pop out up front. I always end up sprinting around corners only to have to slow down when the pack starts slowing right after them. I need to hit them a bit smoother this time around. Crits this weekend, so I can get some practice :) |
Also when you look at the training peaks FAQ it states a match is 20% over your FTP for 1 minute and you can use the fast find tool in WKO+ to find those matches.
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articl...s-a-match.aspx |
Originally Posted by ridethecliche
(Post 8642540)
I have to learn to do the same as your teammate.
I always end up sprinting around corners only to have to slow down when the pack starts slowing right after them. I need to hit them a bit smoother this time around. Crits this weekend, so I can get some practice :) |
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