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Old 04-29-09, 01:47 PM   #1
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When do you give up?

In my race last weekend, I gave up. Here's the story:

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I also got dropped off after the first 2 laps and remember seeing you, because you were the only other guy with a blue jersey. I was not to pleased with getting dropped but got 9th out of 16, so it could have been worse (Cat 5's not combined with 35+). After the race however I had a 3 hour drive back home, which was not to much fun.
At least you got some points. I need to be smarter. After I realized I would not catch the lead group, it became a recovery ride for me. At least as much recovery as is possible on a course like that.
I figured that as a Cat 5, I should just finish when I realized I wouldn't be on the podium. I'm not worried about where I could have finished, but is this a sign of desire to win or mental weakness? After my first good finish in the previous weekend, I was not keen on busting my @Ss to finish anywhere past 5th place. At what point do you lose interest?

Congrats to J.Lockdown on showing his toughness by the way.
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Old 04-29-09, 01:51 PM   #2
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At what point do you lose interest?

7 words into this tale.
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Old 04-29-09, 01:57 PM   #3
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At what point do you lose interest?

7 words into this tale.
thank you.
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Usually if I get dropped, I ride as hard as I possibly can and try to pass as many people as possible, and/or not get passed. If possible I will find a group to ride with.

Last weekend, as soon as I got dropped, I retired. The reason being that I was sick and should not have even left home that day.
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Old 04-29-09, 02:00 PM   #5
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Top 10's are always worth sprinting for in my opinion.
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in a crit, if you're otb, you're no longer racing but rather just riding in circles. just get off the course so you're out of the way if/when the race laps you and go for a ride.

in a RR, if you're otb, might as well continue, just remember that you're no longer racing but again just riding so the rules of the road apply re: cars/intersections, etc., and if another field that is racing comes along, stay to the right so you're out of the way.

edit: there are no points in Cat 5.
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You could have been first if everyone else felt the same way you did and gave up!
Why give up? How will you ever get any better? You are just a wannabe racer now.
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I usually only give up if I can tell that I'm not at 100%. Otherwise I'll usually keep going at it until the finish. If I get dropped and am feeling my best, I'll usually find some people to work with and pick up other dropped riders.
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I was not keen on busting my @Ss to finish anywhere past 5th place.
1. You're going to be in trouble if you keep racing and actually upgrade.
2. There are no points in CAT 5.
3. Cat 5 is about experience, not winning. You should be learning how to handle yourself at speed within a pack.
4. Road racing, even in the lower CAT's takes time and dedication. If you're already frustrated, that's not a good sign.

My $.02
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Old 04-29-09, 02:06 PM   #10
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I always want to give up. If I don't then it's a sign that I'm not going hard enough.
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Old 04-29-09, 02:12 PM   #11
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edit: there are no points in Cat 5.


I don't know what they're for, but they look cool.

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You are just a wannabe racer now.
hmmm. I don't know. Do you acknowledge no logic from my actions?
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Old 04-29-09, 02:20 PM   #12
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1. You're going to be in trouble if you keep racing and actually upgrade.
2. There are no points in CAT 5.
3. Cat 5 is about experience, not winning. You should be learning how to handle yourself at speed within a pack.
4. Road racing, even in the lower CAT's takes time and dedication. If you're already frustrated, that's not a good sign.

My $.02
1. I look forward to finding out.
2. Ok
3. The pack was gone.
4. I'm over it. This has only happened once and I think my dedication is at least respectable for someone with my experience. (not that anyone cares)

Did I make it clear that I was dropped, had been chasing for ~3 miles, and was not gaining ground before making this decision?
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Did I make it clear that I was dropped, had been chasing for ~3 miles, and was not gaining ground before making this decision?
That sounds reasonable.

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I should just finish when I realized I wouldn't be on the podium... I was not keen on busting my @Ss to finish anywhere past 5th place.
This does not.
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Old 04-29-09, 02:30 PM   #14
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If I get dropped I usually continue unless:
I have a race later in the day
I have a race tomorrow
I am totally and completely blown
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Old 04-29-09, 02:39 PM   #15
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That sounds reasonable.



This does not.
my bad.
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Old 04-29-09, 02:43 PM   #16
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At what point do you lose interest?
About 60 minutes after the ref pulls me.

No pull? I'm still racing.
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^^^nice^^^ Give 'er til told to stop.
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When I've crossed the finish line or if everything is really sketchy in the run into the last lap. A bunch of close calls and I will sit up unless I'm feeling incredible.
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I've seen 35 K purses (in horse racing) go to the last place rider due to a screw-up on the course. You bet I'm racing until someone tells me to stop. It ain't over until it's over.
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About 60 minutes after the ref pulls me.

No pull? I'm still racing.

Exactly.
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At the VERY least if I seriously blow-d up, I always feel like I should get my money's worth for my entry fee and ride till the end.

Then there's always that wonderful dream where I'm OTB, then there's the largest crash in the history of bicycle racing, taking out every single other rider with multiple broken bones, and I win.

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At what point do you lose interest?
Do not compute.

As stated by others already... I'm racing until I'm pulled or cross the finish line.
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Old 04-29-09, 03:24 PM   #24
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I gave up at Dana Point when I was no longer chasing the pack but it was chasing me lol..
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when I was younger I was militantly anti-DNF and I would berate and disrespect people who dropped out.

then I got old and fat and changed my views. if I'm dropped, and only after a full and best effort battle to stay / regain contact, I decide:
- what's the training value (I can push harder in a race setting than solo, so there's value there)
- what's the recovery cost for upcoming races (like, later today, or tomorrow).

So it depends.
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