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    Tour of California moves to May in 2010

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...y09/may06news2

    Interesting. As they say, they are clearly trying to become a Tour preparation race. Also, after the last two years of horrible weather, a lot of the riders are probably saying "F that, I'm not going to California to freeze my ass off and get sick before the season gets started." So that's a good reason to move it - May will mean beautiful racing conditions in California, no doubt. On the other hand, expecting that tons of Tour-caliber riders are going to be eager to fly halfway around the world so far into the season seems a bit optimistic. In fairness, they don't have a whole lot of choice if they want to increase the international standing and prestige of the event, and they've been wanting a mountain top finish pretty desperately, but still. If they're able to keep this thing going over the next several years, it'll (hopefully) build itself up, but I wouldn't expect miracles next year. It'll be a good race, though. Thoughts?

    ETA: "The Giro is a great race, but very few cyclists who are serious about the Tour de France will also race the Giro." That seems blatantly counterfactual to me - yeah, lots of the serious Tour guys take May off, but there's been a resurgence in Tour hopefuls using the Giro for prep in the last couple of years, so they could well miss out on a lot of big names. At least in February there wasn't anything else going on.

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    cool, now it'll have all the big names attending

    IMO, this is a one-way ticket to putting the tour of california on the NRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
    cool, now it'll have all the big names attending

    IMO, this is a one-way ticket to putting the tour of california on the NRC.
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    If you're going to conflict with a grand tour, why not the vuelta? Seems like a bad business decision to me.

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    Keep it where it is I say. It brightens up the dull winter...
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    I wonder if the organizers of the Philly race would consider moving their event to May as well? If the two events were close enough on the calendar, it might make it more attractive for European based riders to travel to the US.
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    Eh. The last five days of May here in Philly have been cold and rainy, a lot like... this year's ToC, come to think of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by HigherGround View Post
    I wonder if the organizers of the Philly race would consider moving their event to May as well? If the two events were close enough on the calendar, it might make it more attractive for European based riders to travel to the US.

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    Good move, slotted in before the Dauphine. The constant 45 degree rainy days of the past few years past did not make for the best racing and surely hurt turnout/made sponsorship less appetizing.
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    I think it's better in Feb. The organizers need to realize that it is and will be more of a B team or tune up for the Europe based teams. I'd imagine less teams would want to pick up and go to CA in May than would like to come over in Feb before the season really begins.
    I'd wager that the even the bad CA weather has been better than most of Europe at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emcb1230 View Post
    If you're going to conflict with a grand tour, why not the vuelta? Seems like a bad business decision to me.
    By the time the Vuelta comes around most people have stopped caring.

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    OK, what mountain finish do they want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbayoo View Post
    By the time the Vuelta comes around most people have stopped caring.
    Riders or fans? Either way, I agree. But there's gotta be a better solution then right up against the second biggest stage race in cycling.

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    Yeah all the big names are going to attend...Giro or ToC...yep the Giro is in big trouble.

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    I think for people that don't want to do the Giro because it's too hard too close to the Tour then the ToC is perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbayoo View Post
    I think for people that don't want to do the Giro because it's too hard too close to the Tour then the ToC is perfect.
    This is why god invented the Dauphine. The big names won't be at the ToC. The medium names maybe.

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    This is a horrible idea. Look at the riders that the Volta a Catalunya attracts (read: none). That race starts right in the middle of the Giro.

    "I'd wager that the even the bad CA weather has been better than most of Europe at the same time."


    +1. Boonen actually said he liked the weather because it helped him prepare for the Northern Classics. See how well it worked!!

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    I think this will work. Good move. Not everybody wants to do the Giro. Perfect prep race for the Tour, shorter than the Giro, long enough after the classics for the pros to recover for the TOC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgian Cobbles View Post
    This is a horrible idea. Look at the riders that the Volta a Catalunya attracts (read: none).!
    Incorrect. The TOC will attract the riders who want an easier prep stage race for the Tour de France. The Volta will now attract less than none. It will be the Giro or the TOC, both races will have good fields.

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    Good for some riders.

    Bad for fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seb1041 View Post
    Good for some riders.

    Bad for fans.
    Why is it bad for fans? I'm a fan. I like it.

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    "Perfect prep race for the Tour, shorter than the Giro, long enough after the classics for the pros to recover for the TOC. "

    What pro, is going to finish the Liege-Bastogne-Liege and think, "Whew, that was rough! I hope I recover in time for the Tour of California!!"

    Perfect prep race for the TdF?! A perfect prep race for the TdF is the Dauphine or Tour of Suisse. Know why? Because they are in the same time zone!

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    hmmm. maybe they can start sending teh ToC up the sierras...
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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Why is it bad for fans? I'm a fan. I like it.
    Because I'm only going to listen to the Giro if I have to make a choice.

    AND I like the racing in february...It gives hope to canadians buried in snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Incorrect. The TOC will attract the riders who want an easier prep stage race for the Tour de France. The Volta will now attract less than none. It will be the Giro or the TOC, both races will have good fields.
    Apparently you haven't heard of the Daulphine...Tour de Swiss...ToC in May is not going to attract the big names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Incorrect. The TOC will attract the riders who want an easier prep stage race for the Tour de France. The Volta will now attract less than none. It will be the Giro or the TOC, both races will have good fields.

    i think there will also be financial considerations. teams may not want to spend the money to come here in may.

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