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Old 05-14-09, 06:51 PM   #1
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Motorpace ride options. Which to choose?

Tomorrow I have a friend that is a former high level racer that will be motorpacing me with his new small motorcycle/large motorscooter. Should I go for distance at high speed or practice coming around high speed lead outs? Either one will kick my butt. As for races I am looking at there is the State TT's coming up soon (but Dave Viney is a total monster so there is no way in the world I can compete there, but second place would be tits) and then a little later is a local two road race/TT omnium. Which should I do?
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That looks like fun.
Does anybody know if there's a copy of that documentary in english?
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That looks like fun.
Does anybody know if there's a copy of that documentary in english?
I don't speak the language, but I think that I know what they were saying.
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If you have not been motorpacing in a while, limit that first session to 45' max.
Add a few sprints off of the scooter, but otherwise, stay steady nad keep those rpms cranking.
The first couple mp sessions will knock you backwards if not careful, figuratively.
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If you have not been motorpacing in a while, limit that first session to 45' max.
Add a few sprints off of the scooter, but otherwise, stay steady nad keep those rpms cranking.
The first couple mp sessions will knock you backwards if not careful, figuratively.
I kind of figured that. I was either going to limit it to about 15 high speed miles the first time out or about 5 sprints (probably in 5 miles or less).

Do you count riding in a paceline behind Phil Gaimon as motorpacing or not? I've done that a few times this season.
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I kind of figured that. I was either going to limit it to about 15 high speed miles the first time out or about 5 sprints (probably in 5 miles or less).

Do you count riding in a paceline behind Phil Gaimon as motorpacing or not? I've done that a few times this season.
What you need to do is get in the hipp ride break with Gary and Phil rather than riding 20 riders deep. The three man rotation with those two will work you over.
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What you need to do is get in the hipp ride break with Gary and Phil rather than riding 20 riders deep. The three man rotation with those two will work you over.
Phil, Gary, and me: One of these is not like the others. Ouch.

Motorpacing is off for today. We are going to see if we can do it tomorrow instead.
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Motorpacing is off for today. We are going to see if we can do it tomorrow instead.
Holy crap that was fun!
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You should motorpace for time, not distance, since you'll be going so fast that the mileage can become irrelevant. Rolling roads make for a great workout because you don't want to loose that bumper (or fender). Talk about digging deep, it's a blast.
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If you have not been motorpacing in a while, limit that first session to 45' max.
Add a few sprints off of the scooter, but otherwise, stay steady nad keep those rpms cranking.
The first couple mp sessions will knock you backwards if not careful, figuratively.
I followed your recipe and it was awesome and the advice was spot on. Thanks. The whole ride was about 1 hour with warm-up/cool down. I felt great the whole time and only a couple of hours later did I feel some soreness that is gone now. I also remembered the "keep those rpms cranking" advice and downshifted a couple of times to work on "form" instead of "take a couple of strong pedal strokes to gain speed and then get into the wind to slow down" method to maintain distance. The sprints around the scooter were late in the ride and very intense. They kicked my butt in a good way. Mostly I was working on jumps instead of sprints because I wanted to do more than one.

I could see how you could get sucked into the euphoria of the experience and overdo. I'm thinking that no more than once a week would be good and to slowly work up to longer or more intense sessions.
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Mollusk, if you have access to motorpacing often, do it.
Just don't get over-amped for it everytime out.
Just like group rides or interval days, it's all still just training for race day.
That's when you need those extra reserves.
Keep us posted on what you get to do out there.
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