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Old 05-20-09, 07:37 PM   #1
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Retired Pro Steve Larsen Dies

Was just reading on cyclingnews about this... I didn't know of him before today, but how is it possible that such a super endurance athlete can die of a heart attack at the age of 39? Is there such a thing as too much training?? to the point of killing myself?? kind of got me worried..

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ay09/may21news
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I've thought about this, can a well conditioned athlete just drop dead? And of course, the answer is yes. But it happens to couch potatoes about 50x more often than to the bike weenies, so take it with a grain of salt substitute. Besides, I'd rather get a coronary chasing some Cat 2/3 up a hill than on the couch. And at that point I'll be so full of endorphins that it won't be so bad.
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His brother has said that initial reports indicate it was not a heart attack. There seems to be some evidence of a virus. The family is asking for more tests (I'd link but I'm too lazy right now).
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His brother has said that initial reports indicate it was not a heart attack. There seems to be some evidence of a virus. The family is asking for more tests (I'd link but I'm too lazy right now).


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Terrible. Way too young. He posted on slowtwitch a lot. He shared a lot of information about his training and racing.
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I just got into watching that HBO show Six Feet Under... it's a great show, but the focus on death is really getting to me!
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I just got into watching that HBO show Six Feet Under... it's a great show, but the focus on death is really getting to me!

i had to quit listening to alice cooper for the same reason .

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here's what joe "pro peloton" parkin had to say..........

"Steve was one of those guys I probably would never have hung out with but was always happy to see, either on the start line or at Interbike, Sea Otter, etc. "

does anyone really care who this wad would have hung out with ?

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I just got into watching that HBO show Six Feet Under... it's a great show, but the focus on death is really getting to me!
In retrospect, that series may have been the best TV dramatic series I ever saw. Loved that show.
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I remember Steve from the MTB days. That really sucks.... he was a great guy.
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I've thought about this, can a well conditioned athlete just drop dead? And of course, the answer is yes. But it happens to couch potatoes about 50x more often than to the bike weenies, so take it with a grain of salt substitute. Besides, I'd rather get a coronary chasing some Cat 2/3 up a hill than on the couch. And at that point I'll be so full of endorphins that it won't be so bad.
Ding ding ding ding.

The old farts here probably remember who Jim Fixx was. For those who didn't, he wrote "The Complete Book of Running" and pretty much was one of the people most responsible for the "jogging craze" of the 70s and early 80s.

He died of a heart attack in 1984.

The general consensus was that running helped prolong his life.
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There is a reason top athletes take years off their life.

STRESS to the heart, to the mind, to the organs, to every part of their body.

Being a pro is not healthy.

Shame...
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Ding ding ding ding.

The old farts here probably remember who Jim Fixx was. For those who didn't, he wrote "The Complete Book of Running" and pretty much was one of the people most responsible for the "jogging craze" of the 70s and early 80s.

He died of a heart attack in 1984.

The general consensus was that running helped prolong his life.

Yeah, maybe he was the jogging guru but, he was, if you saw a picture of him on the road and running, a complete Fred who got into the jogging side of the road running scene and capitalized on his schlocky anyone-can-do-it / make-a-quick-buck thing.

To those of us who were actually competing in road races and marathons in those days Frank Shorter was a hella lot more significant figure - an actual champion ('72 Olympic Marathon winner) who was much more important to listen to and emulate.

Fixx was an embarassment. Sorry, my .02 cents.
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Was just reading on cyclingnews about this... I didn't know of him before today, but how is it possible that such a super endurance athlete can die of a heart attack at the age of 39? Is there such a thing as too much training?? to the point of killing myself?? kind of got me worried..

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ay09/may21news

I can 100% guarantee that you have nothing to worry about. Not knocking whatever training you do but in relation to how hard and often Steve trained none of use are even close to his level.
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I can 100% guarantee that you have nothing to worry about. Not knocking whatever training you do but in relation to how hard and often Steve trained none of use are even close to his level.
That's a pretty bold guarantee. Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy can and does happen in athletes of all skill/training levels. You can probably guarantee that it isn't likely he'll die of a heart attack at a young age (because it isn't) but it is not 100% impossible.
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Yeah, maybe he was the jogging guru but, he was, if you saw a picture of him on the road and running, a complete Fred who got into the jogging side of the road running scene and capitalized on his schlocky anyone-can-do-it / make-a-quick-buck thing.

To those of us who were actually competing in road races and marathons in those days Frank Shorter was a hella lot more significant figure - an actual champion ('72 Olympic Marathon winner) who was much more important to listen to and emulate.

Fixx was an embarassment. Sorry, my .02 cents.
Umm yeah. And I'm pretty familiar with Frank, I do live in Gainesville and have been a member of our track club for a looooong time.
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Umm yeah. And I'm pretty familiar with Frank, I do live in Gainesville and have been a member of our track club for a looooong time.
Yep, famous club.

I remember Shorter, Bachelor, Galloway etc. making a lot of news for the FTC back in the day.
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I work with two guys who knew him (and one who raced with him)- according to them he was a great guy and a very good cyclist (dominanting in the triathalon). He also leaves behind five kids and a caring wife. Crazy.
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There is a reason top athletes take years off their life.

STRESS to the heart, to the mind, to the organs, to every part of their body.

Being a pro is not healthy.

Shame...
I remember a velo news article many many years ago that discussed how unhealthy racing at a pro level is. The amount of stress they put on their heart plus the enormous amount of food they force through their bodies day after day just is not healthy.
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That's a pretty bold guarantee. Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy can and does happen in athletes of all skill/training levels. You can probably guarantee that it isn't likely he'll die of a heart attack at a young age (because it isn't) but it is not 100% impossible.


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Yep, famous club.

I remember Shorter, Bachelor, Galloway etc. making a lot of news for the FTC back in the day.
Marty's still around town and shows up for FTC meetings every now and then. We really do have a pretty decent running (and cycling!) scene here, it's not quite Denver, but not too bad for a pancake flat section of the country.
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I remember a velo news article many many years ago that discussed how unhealthy racing at a pro level is. The amount of stress they put on their heart plus the enormous amount of food they force through their bodies day after day just is not healthy.

Our bodies are not made to put that much stress on the heart and organs.
The average ProTour guy has his heart overstressed 25+ hours a week.
And the liver/kidneys/colon/etc get so overworked processing 5000-12000 calorie days, it's just silly.

Though I'd sign today if QuickStep called.

If Larsen died of a viral infection, it could easily be traced to stress.
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