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    Which Crit Tires?

    Looking at:

    Vittoria Diamante Pro Lights (175gm)
    Veloflex Record (130gm)
    Vred Fortezza SL (185gm)

    Which would you pick? I'm just going to use them in crits only, so flat resistance isn't extremely important. Any others I should look at?
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    Conti GP4000s
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    i use specialize mondo pro i think, no issues yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
    Conti GP4000s
    +1

    I only use these to train and race. There may be a bit faster tires, but these wear well, have good puncture resistance and are grippy enough for all conditions. Plus you can get them for relatively cheap on PBK.

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    GP4000S tires are good, fast training tires.

    Look at Vittoria Open Corsas, VeloFlex Paves, or Schwalbe Ultremo R for all out crit tires.
    I race Vitts and won't get on anything else.

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    I am assuming clincher?

    Schwalbe Ultremo R

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    Quote Originally Posted by damocles1 View Post
    GP4000S tires are good, fast training tires.

    Look at Vittoria Open Corsas, VeloFlex Paves, or Schwalbe Ultremo R for all out crit tires.
    I race Vitts and won't get on anything else.
    Do you mean the Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX or a different tire? How are they as far as flat resistance?

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    Mich P3R is my favorite clincher racing tire. I've heard good reviews of Schwalbe Ultremo and Ultremo R but dont have 1st hand experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Do you mean the Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX or a different tire? How are they as far as flat resistance?
    Personally, I've had very good luck with them. Three flats in the last year or so...and I ride them exclusively once the weather warms up. Usually ride Open Pave tires in winter. No reason to ride crap tires on nice wheels.
    And yes, I mean the OC Evo CX. If you are going to race them as race only tires, they're really quite hard to beat. I get mine so far over in the corners that I've rubbed the top of the label off!

    I'm sure others will piss and moan about them...or mention PR3s. If you compare PR3s to the Vitts, you haven't ridden the Vitts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I am assuming clincher?

    Schwalbe Ultremo R

    Did a Crit with a wet, tight, 180 corner on these. Loved 'em.
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    [QUOTE=damocles1;8958575]Personally, I've had very good luck with them. Three flats in the last year or so...and I ride them exclusively once the weather warms up. Usually ride Open Pave tires in winter. No reason to ride crap tires on nice wheels.
    And yes, I mean the OC Evo CX. If you are going to race them as race only tires, they're really quite hard to beat. I get mine so far over in the corners that I've rubbed the top of the label off!

    I'm sure others will piss and moan about them...or mention PR3s. If you compare PR3s to the Vitts, you haven't ridden the Vitts![/QUOTE]

    correct.

    have you ridden/raced p3rs? so that you have a real comparison?

    my only tangential experience with vitt race tires (OC EVO CX, I believe) was a team mate who raced them 3x and each race ended in a flat. 1 a rainy rr, other 2 were crits on smooth courses/dry days. that scared me away.

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    i used mich pro race 2s for years and tried some cont 4000s. bothe were okay in the cornering dept. recently i bought a few sets of the vittoria open pros, these tires come the closest to sew-ups that i have ever ridden when it comes to cornering. go with the vittorias open pros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzzwillzzz View Post
    i used mich pro race 2s for years and tried some cont 4000s. bothe were okay in the cornering dept. recently i bought a few sets of the vittoria open pros, these tires come the closest to sew-ups that i have ever ridden when it comes to cornering. go with the vittorias open pros.
    thx

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    I'm a Pro 2 guy still. It seems like a good all-around race tire. I loved Vitt Open Corsa's, but the flats just got out of hand with them.

    Has anyone tried these? http://www.serfas.com/product_details.asp?ID=247 I like the Seca RS as a training tire, and I'm curious if the race tire is good.

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    I pretty much only do crits although I train on roads locally. I sometimes race on my training wheels and I sometimes train on my race wheels.

    I've ridden PR2s and had so many cuts (and flats) I took them off in about a month. A friend used my Diamantes and flatted them right away (I gave them to him because I thought they'd flat, and he figured he'd try them, much to his dismay). I used the Vittoria Open clinchers, cut them too.

    I use Krylions for clinchers/training. The 40 or 50 or whatever grams per tire isn't going to kill me - when I want lighter wheels, I want them lighter by a pound or two (450-900 grams), not a tenth (45 grams).

    Flatting will ruin my day, race or no race.

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    Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX

    First time I put them on, I thought I was riding different (better) wheels. I've had these things leaned over more than I thought was possible on a bike - we're talking sharp 90 degree turns at 30+mph. At least I once thought briefly "that's it, I over cooked this" but they held on.

    Raced last season on GP4000S black chili - good tires, but the Open Corsas are a different league.

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    even better now that they come in 320tpi
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    I've always just picked a decent looking $30 tire (motivated by cost more than anything else). I've never slid (or crashed) out in a crit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    I've always just picked a decent looking $30 tire (motivated by cost more than anything else). I've never slid (or crashed) out in a crit.
    That's why I'm interested in the Serfas tires, they're about $35.

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    For those using Schwalbe Ultremo R's, what tire pressure do you use. Also include rider weight.

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    I used veloflex pave's for the first time saturday in a crit, they handled awesome, seem like a great tire. My teammate recommended them to me. 1 race isn't enough experience but so far I really like them.

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    [QUOTE=MDcatV;8958841]
    Quote Originally Posted by damocles1 View Post
    Personally, I've had very good luck with them. Three flats in the last year or so...and I ride them exclusively once the weather warms up. Usually ride Open Pave tires in winter. No reason to ride crap tires on nice wheels.
    And yes, I mean the OC Evo CX. If you are going to race them as race only tires, they're really quite hard to beat. I get mine so far over in the corners that I've rubbed the top of the label off!

    I'm sure others will piss and moan about them...or mention PR3s. If you compare PR3s to the Vitts, you haven't ridden the Vitts![/QUOTE]

    correct.

    have you ridden/raced p3rs? so that you have a real comparison?

    my only tangential experience with vitt race tires (OC EVO CX, I believe) was a team mate who raced them 3x and each race ended in a flat. 1 a rainy rr, other 2 were crits on smooth courses/dry days. that scared me away.
    Yes, actually, I have ridden and raced PR3s...they just don't compare. They don't corner as well and the ride quality falls miserably short of the Vittorias. Any suppleness you feel in the PR3s is due to the fact that 115lbs is max pressure. @100 pounds, they feel flat...
    The PR3s felt washy in corners and there was way too much movement when standing. The fact that the casing is low tpi (127) and thin likely contributed to these feelings.
    Here's the list of what I've ridden and how they stack up...
    1)Deda RS Open Corsa
    2)Vittoria Open Corsa CX
    3)Vittoria Open Pave/Veloflex Pave
    4)GP4000S
    5)PR2
    6)PR3

    The next tire I buy to test will be the Schwalbe Ultremo R or the Torelli cotton cased tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
    have you ridden/raced p3rs? so that you have a real comparison?

    my only tangential experience with vitt race tires (OC EVO CX, I believe) was a team mate who raced them 3x and each race ended in a flat. 1 a rainy rr, other 2 were crits on smooth courses/dry days. that scared me away.
    I've raced and trained on both P3R's and Vittoria CX's, both clincher, both with the same tubes on the same wheels.

    I'd take the CX's over the P3R's any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acortez View Post
    For those using Schwalbe Ultremo R's, what tire pressure do you use. Also include rider weight.
    When I ran them (too much money) I put 'em 105-115 depending on conditions. I'm 215#
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    I feel the PR3's are a little too soft for crits here in the south. With the hot pave they feel a little mushy around the corners at high speeds.
    Please remember that all statements unless quoted, are strictly my opinion of what happened. That there are as many opinions as there are spectators attending. I just choose to publish mine on this forum. And would NEVER intend to purposely hurt or discredit any other cyclist.... With that said... HTFU!

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