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Old 09-08-09, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
Wow, I replace my tires when they start to square away.
That too
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Old 09-08-09, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TrippleB
Carbon clinchers increase your risk of a blowout puncutre. The most common puncture I see on rides and races is not a debris puncutre, but a blowout. A blowout is caused by too much air pressure in the tube.
You don't know what you're talking about. It takes an enormous change in temperature to cause enough pressure change to in turn cause a blow-out. Clincher rims and tires will hold far more pressure than you think. These two factors together make this practically impossible unless some user error already exists to be exacerbated (it should go without saying that this is also a risk with tubulars). A heat-induced blow-out is flat-out not possible in a crit, or any typical bike race. On a massive, steep descent the necessary conditions can be induced, but these same conditions are going to make your tubular glue soft and tacky as well. Either way, I would recommend using equipment that gives you confidence and making sure that your health and life insurance premiums are paid up.
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Old 09-08-09, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by botto
i have to say that, in retrospect, i'm impressed with the fact that the wheel performed well enough for me not to notice i had a broken spoke until someone pointed it out on the cool down.

even better: went to my lbs to get it fixed. to my surprise, he did it on the spot.
The front will run with two missing and two bent.

Wobbly though.

Originally Posted by grolby
You don't know what you're talking about. It takes an enormous change in temperature to cause enough pressure change to in turn cause a blow-out.
FWIW: Left two aluminum clinchers sitting in the wheel pit (concrete sidewalk) last year in the Texas sun. Had been inflated to 110 PSI. Both blew out. Lost two sitting in the car also.

I now go 90 PSI, try to find shade, and deflate all my tires that will be sitting in the car.

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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
FWIW: Left two aluminum clinchers sitting in the wheel pit (concrete sidewalk) last year in the Texas sun. Had been inflated to 110 PSI. Both blew out. Lost two sitting in the car also.

I now go 90 PSI, try to find shade, and deflate all my tires that will be sitting in the car.
I had a tire blow on level ground due to heat build-up from brake rub. I just thought it was a headwind.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
Wow, I replace my tires when they start to square away. I just replaced my rear Vittoria tubular because the filed center pattern was worn down.

After racing karts for years, I make sure my tires GRIP. Added to that, I really lean into turns. I'm hell on tires.
If you "really lean into turns," you're not using as much of the worn part of the tire. The squaring off doesn't make much difference in cornering traction because they're always flat against the road anyway. I speak from experience that you can corner crazy in crits on old training tires.

Nothing wrong with replacing for peace of mind, of course, but you're not doing anything different than any other crit racer for tire wear.

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I had a tire blow on level ground due to heat build-up from brake rub. I just thought it was a headwind.
You and RX are scaring me. I've gotten down Beauford (21% grade, twisty, and textured -- back side of Jester in Austin) and felt my front rim hot enough to cause a burn. A training partner once lost a bottle on the texture vibration. By the time he managed to stop, his bottle came flying by him at 30mph and kept going. This is not a hill I want to blow a tire on -- I need to stop using my brakes so much
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Originally Posted by grolby
It takes an enormous change in temperature to cause enough pressure change to in turn cause a blow-out. Clincher rims and tires will hold far more pressure than you think.
Just curious, do you have data to support these hypotheses?

I would think it depends strongly on tire/rim combo. It's supposed to be impossible to roll a clincher, but I've done that too.
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Originally Posted by MtnRide
Just curious, do you have data to support these hypotheses?

I would think it depends strongly on tire/rim combo. It's supposed to be impossible to roll a clincher, but I've done that too.
This is bikeforums, we don't use data!

I had a guy roll a clincher next to me in a crit.
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Originally Posted by umd
This is bikeforums, we don't use data!
Been at work too long, I clearly forgot.

I, too, have had tubes spontaneously flat when I've left them in hot cars or in otherwise enclosed spaces, just to add to the general theme.

My argument for getting tubulars is that you get to sit around, sniff glue, and probably have a few beers all at the same time while you figger 'em out. Sounds like a win-win-win to me.
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Originally Posted by macilvennon
Thanks you those who gave an answer. For those of you who called me blind I would say Foxtrot Oscar !
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