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    TdF Stage 2 - Pushing and shoving question

    http://bit.ly/GMWNc or http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/tmp/20090705_cavshove.mp4

    Clearly Cavendish makes contact with the Skil-Shimano rider first. But was that initial contact justified? Looks like Cav was trying to keep on Renshaw's wheel, but surely there must have been a more tactful way to do it?
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    link doesn't work for me
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    really?

    i just clicked it

    it's an MPEG4 video file
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    yeah. neither are working for me, but i'm a computer idiot. maybe i don't have the right program or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by zeleuo View Post
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    Wowza...
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    that's why they call him cannonball.

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    What's more tactful? 'Cuse me sir, you are on the wheel I'd like to be drafting.

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    it doesn't really bother me to see this kinda thing...it scares me a bit to watch it but i think it's a bit of common practice for these guys. I bet some of the masters racers on here can tell you this kinda think happens (although not that blatant) a bunch in the amatuer ranks. i haven't been directly pushed off a wheel but i have had guys try to bully and elbow their way on to the wheel i've been on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
    it doesn't really bother me to see this kinda thing...it scares me a bit to watch it but i think it's a bit of common practice for these guys. I bet some of the masters racers on here can tell you this kinda think happens (although not that blatant) a bunch in the amatuer ranks. i haven't been directly pushed off a wheel but i have had guys try to bully and elbow their way on to the wheel i've been on.
    same here. i used to respond in kind. these days, it's not worth it to me.

    the most all do is stick my knee out, point my elbows out, or give a slight tap/shove on the hip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    same here. i used to respond in kind. these days, it's not worth it to me.

    the most all do is stick my knee out, point my elbows out, or give a slight tap/shove on the hip.
    this is only my second year racing but i do race the 35+ masters races...i used to push back but just realized that there is no glory in these races. It's for fun and i have to work on monday. although i do have free medical insurance.

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    It's called Skil-Shimano guy hasn't earned his place at the tip of the spear yet...Cav shouldn't take his hands off the bars though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbayoo View Post
    It's called Skil-Shimano guy hasn't earned his place at the tip of the spear yet...Cav shouldn't take his hands off the bars though.
    non issue...these guys ride their bikes better with one hand then you and i do with both...it's not amatuer hour, they don't get yelled at by the race directors for stuff like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash716 View Post
    non issue...these guys ride their bikes better with one hand then you and i do with both...it's not amatuer hour, they don't get yelled at by the race directors for stuff like that.
    That's not the point. If you need to send a signal to someone give them a shoulder or head butt. Even in the pros it's considered just racing until someone's hand comes off.

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