mike868y

I did about 2hrs of punchy hills at high tempo. Power actually feels like it's improving, but the real test will be the group ride tomorrow night.


Followed that up with calc bc intervals for the AP test tomorrow...

kudude

made myself ride pretty easy today. weird. no more of this "just hard enough to make me tired, not hard enough to force adaptations, and not easy enough to let my body recover"

my plan for hte last couple of weeks is just enough riding that I can hang, but not enough to ever upgrade. that's over now

ooh, bc I remember that

i think I had to demonstrate the trapezoidal method or some ****. my wife's kids are all taking hte physics ap soon. she doesn't hold out much hope for them.

Now the question is, are you trying to get college credit to skip ahead, never have to take the class, or skip YOUR final in YOUR class?

mike868y

Depends on the class. In spanish and physics I have to take the final regardless because it is a uconn ece (early college experience, we get uconn credits for the class) class. In bio, I'd like to skip ahead so I can start at a higher level in college, physics I just want to see where I am, and calc I would like to skip ahead as well. The only issue with calc is that it was a first semester course, so it's been months since I've used the material. The teacher was great though, I should be able to pull off a 4.

kensuf

I didn't do anything except play with the setup on my new toy. I think I've got the fit dialed in, now I need to find a sleeveless jersey.

ljrichar

Status = frustrated. Can't seem to translate any of my training fitness into racing results.

waterrockets 

Well, you know the whole "find your race limiters" path...

MDcatV

took 2 days off the bike, legs still a little crispy from weekend racing. pacing workout this a.m. 1st time in a couple of months. after a good 10' and good 1st 8', the 2nd 8' felt horrible but was >ap than 1st. after that i fell off a cliff. not sure what to make of this exactly other than i'm a little tired.

mattm

Are you racing any smarter than before?

umd

Did 30 minutes of 15 second sprints every 2 minutes, and high tempo in between. Is it funny that the tempo hurt more than the sprints? For the half an hour, 270W AP, 290W NP.

ljrichar

Well, this is from a race series on a flat, oval car track. I don't have a high enough FTP to stay away & my 136lbs. doesn't help me out there. Maybe I should take botto's suggestion & just find another race.

Hida Yanra

I race around 138 and I don't have the FTP to blow big guys off my wheel on a flat course...
I'd consider helping team mates who are built for this, or finding a different race.

ridethecliche

That's cause you weren't sprinting hard enough.

Do I see 600 W for 15 secs? What is that? Wuss.

umd

x15

mattm

I'd say he wasn't resting hard enough between efforts - which would have allowed for better sprints.

umd

I did the workout I was given. Sprints every 2 minutes, tempo in between. Uphill.

mattm

Oh, I see.

I do something like that, but it's 20-secs on hard, 1 minute off hard, up to 5 sets of 5, 5 mins between sets.

mollusk

I'm bad.

Today was supposed to be an easy 1.5 to 2 hour ride - Zone 2 or a bit lower. Instead I did a 1.5 hour SST with a 5 minute stretch above threshold at the end just because it felt so good. Given that the next race I care about is over a month away I'm not going to sweat this detail.

dc1215

UMD that workout sounds great...in a really painful way of course. I do something like it, but targeted at slightly different systems. Its an hour of higher level tempo, usually around 85% with a 1 minute effort at between 150-180%(basically whatever I can muster and still be semi-repeatable) done every 9 minutes. So it ends up being 54 minutes of hard tempo and 6x1 efforts. Ive never seen either of these workouts mentioned...but for me, powering through after a really hard effort is a limiter so this seemed to make sense.

mike868y

Eff. Got shelled at the wednesday night hammerfest worse than I ever had. Something in my training needs to change, I just wish I knew what.

Hida Yanra

The following is IMO, and I may be completely off base - but I have run into this with other sports, and the answer may be more simple than you are thinking.

Mike... this isn't fun to say, and i know from when I ran into this with competitive swimming it isn't easy to hear...
you may need time for your muscles to develop into "cycling muscles"... give it time. You haven't been riding or racing for long (at least, not that I recall?), give it a full year - IF, at the end of next year this hasn't improved, sure... blow stuff up.

However, I think that all you need is time and patience. Both of these things are super-difficult to have when you are putting so much work into a pastime - but seriously, give it time, it'll come out okay.
If you are doing the stuff you say you are doing for training, you will get stronger and better,

less worrying, less obsessing, give yourself a chance to adapt to this difficult discipline.

Psimet2001 

2 minute intervals up and down the main drag through one of the world's largest industrial parks - right next to the Tour of Elk Grove course.

ridethecliche

This.

Friel has said that it takes 7 years for your body to FULLY adapt to being an endurance athlete, i.e. down to the cellular level.

mike868y

Thanks for the advice Hida and RTC (yes you're correct that I haven't been riding long. This is pretty much my second year riding/training somewhat seriously). I'm just frustrated because I feel like I'm riding worse than last year... Some people tell me I need more recovery, some say I need to take less recovery. I'm going to take next week as a recovery week (4hrs total, one 45' crit on tuesday) and then see how I feel.

Grumpy McTrumpy

whenever I suck (which is often) I get the urge to go out and train very hard immediately, but I don't follow this urge. Just stay with the program and make sure you get your rest.

I can verify that the "long program" works much better in learning to play a brass instrument. I started young, and was doing pro gigs when I was your age, but I still had bad days and times when things just did not work right. No amount of cramming nine hour days of practice or beating myself up would change that, except for the worse.

Eventually, it all just came together. The nine-hour practice days did not specifically achieve this (at first they actually made me worse) but after a number of years of steady practice (especially when I learned to relax and not push it but just go long/easy) I just sort of magically mutated into one of those "real musicians" that I held in such high regard.

These days I almost never worry about a gig, no matter how hard the music is. I haven't had the experience of feeling outclassed on a job in nearly twenty years.

Stick with the program. Focus on "where you are right now". Accept that you must be where you are right now, and that the future is really nothing more than a vision, but the real thing is to just stay on the path. You will find the way to where you want to be.

substructure

Mon: Off

Tues:


Wed:


Thur:


Fri: Full 85 mile commute.

Sat: 5k race with my 10 year old daughter

Sun: 3hrs with climbing.

What I'm really looking forward to is all the calories I'll consume Friday and Saturday. Eating out with friends and going to a family BBQ on a farm in Lincolnton, NC.