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    Sprinting Power and Duration

    I've been convinced for a while that my strength was longer drawn out sprints.

    I just want to see where other people's stuff lines up.

    Lets do Max, 5 sec, 10 sec, 20 sec, and 30 sec power, and 1 min. And your CAT if you care to share.

    I'm just curious is all.

    Mine:

    Max: 1387
    5 sec: 1313
    10 sec: 1212
    20 sec: 970
    30 sec: 871
    1 min: 560

    CAT 4.

    Edit: Add weight as well. I'm about 150ish lbs (68-70 kg).
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    I am certainly not a sprinter...

    Max: 1081
    5": 1040
    10": 972
    20": 824
    30": 762
    1': 570

    Note that these are not all from the same time...

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    Your numbers don't mean anything unless we know your weight. Those are good if you weigh 70kg or less.

    BTW, I got my best sprint max yesterday. I am no sprinter though. This was after about 35miles of riding. I think I could put out more with cooler conditions and more rest.

    70kg.

    Max 1368
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinwax View Post
    Your numbers don't mean anything unless we know your weight. Those are good if you weigh 70kg or less.
    IIRC he is similar to me, mid 140s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umd View Post
    IIRC he is similar to me, mid 140s.

    They are VERY good numbers then. If he weighs 65.77kg which is about 145lbs that would put him in the Excellent Cat1 catagory per the Training with power book at his 5 sec.

    The 1min number would put him at the low end of a Cat II per the book.

    AWESOME numbers.

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    Max: 1148w
    5": 1000
    10": ?
    20": 620-ish
    30": ?
    1': 480 or so

    Don't have the data with me, this is off the top o' the head.

    Oh, and there are 71 kgs of me. And fwiw I'm not really a sprinter. (Not really anything yet...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinwax View Post
    Your numbers don't mean anything unless we know your weight.
    Kinda.. weight is irrelevant in a flat crit.. its really power to aerodynamics, yes a smaller guy is probably more aero, but when talking sprint wattage the W is normally king. There is a reason the 200# ex-football players can race crits with some success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmotoguy View Post
    Kinda.. weight is irrelevant in a flat crit.. its really power to aerodynamics, yes a smaller guy is probably more aero, but when talking sprint wattage the W is normally king. There is a reason the 200# ex-football players can race crits with some success.
    True. There is a reason I put out less power per Kg than many of my riding friends but I can drop them at will in a climb.

    It is still nice to know weights to do closer comparisons of someone's power outputs. Wkg is king on a power profile output on paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umd View Post
    IIRC he is similar to me, mid 140s.
    I wish...

    I think I've gained weight so far over the summer.

    I don't have a weighing scale so I haven't weighed myself since school ended in June...

    I think the most I weigh is 155, but I don't know. My clothes and jersey's don't fit any differently now than when I was 145, i.e. belt same, jerseys still only feel tight around my neck etc.

    I think a lot of the weight gain has been in my legs, as I've got noticeably more muscle there than I used to.

    Then again, it's possible that I'm still 145-150 since I might not have gained anything. I have no idea...

    I'll try losing some weight in the winter if needed. I'm 5'10 if it matters. I kinda want to start lifting a bit more in the winter especially with my arms so I can pull up on the bars with a little more force, and with full body to just strengthen and use it as a weight bearing activity.

    Edit: I think the girls downstairs have a weighing scale. Maybe I'll ask them if I can use it in the morning tomorrow. I'm honestly a little scared to check.
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    Definitely not a sprinter... (71.5 kg atm)

    Peak: 1170
    5" 1059
    10" 1004
    20" 873
    30" 788
    1' 607 <-- not too shabby though.
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    So what're gonna do if the scale reads 5lbs. heavier, diet and lose fitness? Even a BF% bathroom scale is only accurate up to the hips or so, and the empirical evidence is in your favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
    II think the most I weigh is 155, but I don't know.
    Even if you weigh 155, your numbers are still good either way from everything I have read.

    I am excited to learn more about my #s. I am still VERY in the dark with this whole training with power thing....LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphoria View Post
    So what're gonna do if the scale reads 5lbs. heavier, diet and lose fitness? Even a BF% bathroom scale is only accurate up to the hips or so, and the empirical evidence is in your favor.
    Nah. I'll start drinking less beer.

    On second though, nahhhh...

    I'm stronger than ever before actually, so that's still in my favor. Losing fitness is not in the cards for now, hopefully, though I could/should eat a little healthier. I do pretty well already though. This is the heaviest I've been in 5 years.

    I'm actually hoping to gain some more lean muscle over the winter by lifting. In any event, we'll see what happens when it happens.

    Now, back to the numbers.
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    Max: 1419
    5": 1293
    10": 1261
    20": 1157
    30": no good data
    1min: 632

    73.5kg at the moment. My best long duration sprints are always uphill and always in a race (I can never quite fool myself into max efforts during a sprint workout).

    I'm definitely not a "pure" sprinter, my strength is really FTP. I can sprint well out of a group, but usually because I've got more left than those around me. I can't put up up eye-popping power numbers, but I can consistently hit those numbers at the end of a race

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    those are good numbers.. cat2 probably?
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    Max: 1757W
    5": 1491
    10": 1377
    20": 1131
    30": 824
    1m: 565 (though this is suspect; never tested here)

    80kg. I consider myself a sprinter, but I am mostly training my ftp level power at the moment. That's where my weakness lies.
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    Max: 1479W
    5": 1354
    10": 1267
    20": 1008
    30": 901
    1m: 738

    160 pounds / 72.7kg

    i don't have much of a "first step" when i jump, more like a "third step." maybe i'm using the wrong gear when i jump
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    In WKO, do you have to get these numbers off the "MMP Curve" graph, or is there another way?

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    I wish power meters were plentiful 10-12 years ago. I would have liked to see what I could have done at 190 lbs. I was going to spin for 20 miles tonight after yesterday's 2x20s; maybe I'll mix in a few jumps.


    Quote Originally Posted by JourneyLightly View Post
    In WKO, do you have to get these numbers off the "MMP Curve" graph, or is there another way?
    You can look at the summary for an individual ride for peak power too.
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    Compiled from 5" and 1' tests only:

    Max: 1751W
    5: 1649W
    10: 1408W
    20: 1186W
    30: 1049W
    1 min: 821W

    78.5kg

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    Max: 1277
    5s: 1231
    10s: 1084
    15s: 980
    20s: 959
    30s: 725
    1 min: 543

    66.5 kg

    I'm all jump

    this is a good exercise in learning the "type" of sprint you have - jumpy like I have or long drag race type

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    So here is a question for the BF world. There are many different types of sprints, what would be considered a typical decline in power for a short sprint vs a longer sprint?

    My not so impressive numbers compared to you all. I am 68kgs.

    Max: 1144
    5 sec: 1095
    10 sec: 1012
    20 sec: 786
    30 sec: 695
    1 min: 535

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    I think my max sprint is like 850 watts, but I only weigh 110 pounds.

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    960 for twenty seconds is not all jump, especially for 66 kg.
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    max: 1277
    5 sec: 1238
    10 sec: 1119
    20 sec: 923
    30 sec: 830
    1 min: 614

    I weigh 70.3 kg

    I don't think my numbers are too bad for only being cat 4. I feel like my 10-20 second sprint is my strong point.
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