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Old 11-02-09, 05:32 PM   #1
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confession: I'm addicted to power numbers...

I love those dang numbers on the little screen... they make me feel so good.

Round numbers are particularly nice. 300 watts is just so much better than 299.

I love the feeling of good legs and big numbers.

Power numbers are like a warm blanket on a cold night.

I'd be lost without them. Numbers, that is.

-Ldesf, Confessions of a Power Numbers Addict
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Old 11-02-09, 06:05 PM   #2
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It's easy to become addicted to something you possess.

I'm too afraid to find out how little I have.

"It is better to remain ignorant and be thought a weakling, than to buy a powermeter and remove all doubt ."
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Old 11-02-09, 06:16 PM   #3
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I'm waiting for the day that during a race, I crash head on while I'm looking down at my Powertap.

Just you wait.
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Old 11-02-09, 06:24 PM   #4
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My powertap should be coming soon......I fear I may end up like you, Leo.
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See, the only time I see 300w is when I'm right near 5.0w/kg. That's not fair. You seeing 300 is like me seeing 220, which is a way lamer number. 300 is a fun number.
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Old 11-02-09, 07:19 PM   #6
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no pity.

the numbers rule all.

they do not lie.

i love them.
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Old 11-02-09, 08:02 PM   #7
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Hell. Even I see 220!
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I dunno, I've been thinking about selling the PT and going 'euro'. I think last season I was too obsessed over CTL ramp rates, TSS, and unrealistic wattage expectations that I burned out early on. Granted, I could just not make the same mistakes this season but the powermeter at this point just makes me feel anxious.
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I just like seeing the sprint numbers
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But if like me, you had no sprint, what would there be to like?
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Old 11-02-09, 08:22 PM   #11
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I was for a while - but then my PT broke and I haven't gotten around to replacing it yet.
That was over a year ago now, and I'm mostly over it. I'm training by feel this year and enjoying the lack of numerical evidence to my suckitude.

I think a year or two from now I'll go back to being power obsessed - possibly with a Quarq?
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There's power in numbers
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But if like me, you had no sprint, what would there be to like?
Average power? Leo seems to do fine with that.

Heck dude, I just liked being able to go at 280W for 20 mins and know that I was spent. I'm pretty motivated by numbers.

Or finish position in a race, you could just go by that too.

And now back to studying so I can get get numbers.
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I was much more obsessed in my first year with the PM when every month I was making huge gains. Obviously, it couldn't continue. Now that my power is cyclical, I feel much less attached to the power numbers. They're a tool in the toolbox. Probably my favorite tool (like a nice table saw), but not something I obsess over any more.

Come to think of it, I'm probably due for some power testing now that I've started a new season. It's been a while since I tested (another sign that I'm less obsessed). I know pretty much where I am though. It's easy to feel it and see the evidence in the ride data.
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Old 11-02-09, 11:40 PM   #15
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Power overwhelming!
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I was much more obsessed in my first year with the PM when every month I was making huge gains. Obviously, it couldn't continue. Now that my power is cyclical, I feel much less attached to the power numbers. They're a tool in the toolbox. Probably my favorite tool (like a nice table saw), but not something I obsess over any more.

Come to think of it, I'm probably due for some power testing now that I've started a new season. It's been a while since I tested (another sign that I'm less obsessed). I know pretty much where I am though. It's easy to feel it and see the evidence in the ride data.
Same here, WR.

The numbers give me a great sense of where my body/CNS is in the "cyclical" world of "good form".

I rarely test, as I'm getting familiar with what type of numbers I should be putting out for a given day/week/month in the scheme of my macrocycles.

It becomes easier to decide when to back off a bit and when to push just a bit harder.

It's also taught me how to ride without coasting for 3 hours. which is pretty weird.
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Old 11-03-09, 08:40 AM   #17
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I dunno, I've been thinking about selling the PT and going 'euro'. I think last season I was too obsessed over CTL ramp rates, TSS, and unrealistic wattage expectations that I burned out early on. Granted, I could just not make the same mistakes this season but the powermeter at this point just makes me feel anxious.
There's something to it. I'm not getting a PT this year because I want to be damn sure that I'll stick to a training plan before I lay out the money.
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I record just about every ride. But unless I am doing some very specific intervals I stick a piece of tape over the control head and look at the numbers after the ride. I get a much better sense of how my body is feeling. Doing tempo based on perceived effort is more telling than hitting the number. IMO
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I record just about every ride. But unless I am doing some very specific intervals I stick a piece of tape over the control head and look at the numbers after the ride. I get a much better sense of how my body is feeling. Doing tempo based on perceived effort is more telling than hitting the number. IMO
I find tempo by numbers is much more of a workout for me than if I just went off of PE.
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I find tempo by numbers is much more of a workout for me than if I just went off of PE.
It is, but I have watched the numbers over a couple of years and now I just want to "feel" it. When I want to dial in on a workout I jump on the CT. That is a strict workout. No give.
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I was much more obsessed in my first year with the PM when every month I was making huge gains. Obviously, it couldn't continue. Now that my power is cyclical, I feel much less attached to the power numbers. They're a tool in the toolbox. Probably my favorite tool (like a nice table saw), but not something I obsess over any more.

Come to think of it, I'm probably due for some power testing now that I've started a new season. It's been a while since I tested (another sign that I'm less obsessed). I know pretty much where I am though. It's easy to feel it and see the evidence in the ride data.
This is why I wish that I could rent a P-tap for a week every now and then. It would be solely for a calibration of the personal perceived effort meter. The truth is that I can get that by matching weather conditions and speeds on a route that I ride a lot, but then I can't post numbers on BF to lament/brag about.
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It was cool at first, but became a lot like stepping on a scale every day once I knew where I stood. Still use it for training where I want and need the feedback, but don't race or go on group rides with it (and haven't for a long time).
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This is why I wish that I could rent a P-tap for a week every now and then. It would be solely for a calibration of the personal perceived effort meter. The truth is that I can get that by matching weather conditions and speeds on a route that I ride a lot, but then I can't post numbers on BF to lament/brag about.
I don't know about you, but for me, the RPE meter varies dramatically depending on my state of physical and mental freshness. The PM never does.
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This is why I wish that I could rent a P-tap for a week every now and then. It would be solely for a calibration of the personal perceived effort meter. The truth is that I can get that by matching weather conditions and speeds on a route that I ride a lot, but then I can't post numbers on BF to lament/brag about.
This is one of the things holding me back from getting a powertap...I ride a traffic free paved 7 mile loop (in a state park) regularly, and my current fitness test is a TT around the loop. Sure, the atmospherics play a role as the winds in FL sometimes do kick up, but when I'm able to consistent winds this gives me a pretty good test. I really think the power test would be most helpful for sprints and the sub 5-min intervals. I do find that, when on the rowing ergometer at the YMCA, I get fixated on besting my last average wattage output.
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I don't know about you, but for me, the RPE meter varies dramatically depending on my state of physical and mental freshness. The PM never does.
+1 especially true during challenging blocks of training. Carry-over fatigue throws my RPE meter in the garbage.
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