Getting Comfy on a TT. Some questions.
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Getting Comfy on a TT Bike. Some questions.
How comfy are you? Any good saddle recommendations?
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I picked up the specialized TT saddle and love it. I hate their other saddles, but since you only sit on the first three inches of the thing anyway the shape of the back end doesn't really matter.
That said, there's a reason why I still call my TT bike the Grundle Killer. Putting all your weight on your taint on maybe 4 inches of foam is not going to be comfy, ever.
That said, there's a reason why I still call my TT bike the Grundle Killer. Putting all your weight on your taint on maybe 4 inches of foam is not going to be comfy, ever.
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I ride such a minimalist saddle on the road (San Marco Aspide), I never thought I would need much more on the TT bike but the position is so much more radical I think I may have to go with something else. I am 100% positive my position is probably not optimal as of yet anyways so I don't want to jump to new saddles yet.
Honestly, the Cobb saddle is not as terrible looking as I thought it would be. Hmmm, it may be a consideration. I don't know how some pros are doing TTs on such minimal stuff. I am VERY flexible, lean and in good shape; I didn't think I would have an issue.
This one looks interesting.
https://www.cobbcycling.com/cart/V-Flow_White_C1P1.cfm
Honestly, the Cobb saddle is not as terrible looking as I thought it would be. Hmmm, it may be a consideration. I don't know how some pros are doing TTs on such minimal stuff. I am VERY flexible, lean and in good shape; I didn't think I would have an issue.
This one looks interesting.
https://www.cobbcycling.com/cart/V-Flow_White_C1P1.cfm
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I picked up the specialized TT saddle and love it. I hate their other saddles, but since you only sit on the first three inches of the thing anyway the shape of the back end doesn't really matter.
That said, there's a reason why I still call my TT bike the Grundle Killer. Putting all your weight on your taint on maybe 4 inches of foam is not going to be comfy, ever.
That said, there's a reason why I still call my TT bike the Grundle Killer. Putting all your weight on your taint on maybe 4 inches of foam is not going to be comfy, ever.
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2 hours is a long time for a TT bike, considering you'll never race more than 60 minutes, unless you are doing triathlons?
I have an Adamo ISM saddle, and am still getting the hang of it, making adjustments a few times on a ride, but am doing 2+ hours.
Are you sure about losing power by being more forward?
What are your arms like?
I have an Adamo ISM saddle, and am still getting the hang of it, making adjustments a few times on a ride, but am doing 2+ hours.
Are you sure about losing power by being more forward?
What are your arms like?
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2 hours is a long time for a TT bike, considering you'll never race more than 60 minutes, unless you are doing triathlons?
I have an Adamo ISM saddle, and am still getting the hang of it, making adjustments a few times on a ride, but am doing 2+ hours.
Are you sure about losing power by being more forward?
What are your arms like?
I have an Adamo ISM saddle, and am still getting the hang of it, making adjustments a few times on a ride, but am doing 2+ hours.
Are you sure about losing power by being more forward?
What are your arms like?
LOL, two hours is actually pretty short for me. I am putting the hours in this season and if I am going to go out an train (even on the the TT), it will be for a few hours at min. TTing well this season is my biggest goal. Everyone I know that wins and does well in TTs spends at least 1-3 days a week on the TT bike and quite a few hours.
I know setup will take some time but I get impatient.
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I like the specialized saddle, hoping to try the cobb next, and the arione tri saddle is a solid performer.
it takes time, just like when you talk to people who are just starting to ride a bike for the first time... gots to get used to the new weird position you are expecting out of your body.
it takes time, just like when you talk to people who are just starting to ride a bike for the first time... gots to get used to the new weird position you are expecting out of your body.
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Don't mock me... Profile Design Tri Stryke Ti... lots of padding up front and the loicra grabs on to you and stops the sliding. Works for me. Not a beauty to look at though... :-)
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I just traded out my Arione TT saddle for the Specialized TT saddle and love it.
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A couple things :
First, before spend a lot of money on saddles, get a proper fit from someone that has experience with TT. From your posts, you haven't done that yet and how do you know if your fit is correct or not ? Aero / comfort / power efficiency tie in really well if done by the right professional. A racer can not do it without help.
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Bike_Fit/B...e_pie_650.html
Second (reply to PJC), spending a couple hours on a TT rig isn't unusual. I have an old school Aluminum TT rig - Abici Time Machine - that I have no problems sitting in the saddle for 5 hours on. Even though the events are no longer than an hour, training - at certain times of the year - will require LT sets varying from 30 minutes or longer; and several LT intervals per workout. Add on the rest periods and you are easily around 2-3 hours for a single workout.
Lastly, once you get the fit dialed in - by a pro - spend time on your rig. Even if its on a trainer. During the spring I spend a lot of time racing on my road bike. It can take a week or two to get used to riding on the TT rig.
Overall I think you are new to your bike. Don't buy anything new yet - a new saddle can cost more than a proper bike fit and it's a lot cheaper than a 1080. Get the proper fit and just ride it. Don't make any changes to the bike once it is dialed in. Give your body a chance to get used to it. And most importantly - WORK ON YOUR CORE !
Worry about improving your power LT wheels... etc in the Spring.
BTW, I've been on the same ArioneTT saddle for 3 years.... if I have any comfort issues, it's usually not due to the saddle or the position. Searching for the most perfect / comfortable saddle will take you a life time. Any saddle will work just fine if your fit is correct.
First, before spend a lot of money on saddles, get a proper fit from someone that has experience with TT. From your posts, you haven't done that yet and how do you know if your fit is correct or not ? Aero / comfort / power efficiency tie in really well if done by the right professional. A racer can not do it without help.
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Bike_Fit/B...e_pie_650.html
Second (reply to PJC), spending a couple hours on a TT rig isn't unusual. I have an old school Aluminum TT rig - Abici Time Machine - that I have no problems sitting in the saddle for 5 hours on. Even though the events are no longer than an hour, training - at certain times of the year - will require LT sets varying from 30 minutes or longer; and several LT intervals per workout. Add on the rest periods and you are easily around 2-3 hours for a single workout.
Lastly, once you get the fit dialed in - by a pro - spend time on your rig. Even if its on a trainer. During the spring I spend a lot of time racing on my road bike. It can take a week or two to get used to riding on the TT rig.
Overall I think you are new to your bike. Don't buy anything new yet - a new saddle can cost more than a proper bike fit and it's a lot cheaper than a 1080. Get the proper fit and just ride it. Don't make any changes to the bike once it is dialed in. Give your body a chance to get used to it. And most importantly - WORK ON YOUR CORE !
Worry about improving your power LT wheels... etc in the Spring.
BTW, I've been on the same ArioneTT saddle for 3 years.... if I have any comfort issues, it's usually not due to the saddle or the position. Searching for the most perfect / comfortable saddle will take you a life time. Any saddle will work just fine if your fit is correct.
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I think if you put it in a comfortable position and practice there ,the power will come. Is your saddle to bar different pretty high?
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i love my TT position, and I don't get truly uncomfortable in it under ~2 hrs.
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i dont know much about the subject, but why dont time trialists just have the seat scooted way up so that they ARE seating in the good part of the seat while they are in the aero position. why have the most important position use the inconvenient part of the seat?
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Because a lot of racers (professional, and state/national level amateur) have to keep that seat far enough back in order for their bike to adhere to regulations. I think for most of these guys the front of the seat has to be 5 cm behind the bottom bracket.
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A couple things :
First, before spend a lot of money on saddles, get a proper fit from someone that has experience with TT. From your posts, you haven't done that yet and how do you know if your fit is correct or not ? Aero / comfort / power efficiency tie in really well if done by the right professional. A racer can not do it without help.
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Bike_Fit/B...e_pie_650.html
Second (reply to PJC), spending a couple hours on a TT rig isn't unusual. I have an old school Aluminum TT rig - Abici Time Machine - that I have no problems sitting in the saddle for 5 hours on. Even though the events are no longer than an hour, training - at certain times of the year - will require LT sets varying from 30 minutes or longer; and several LT intervals per workout. Add on the rest periods and you are easily around 2-3 hours for a single workout.
Lastly, once you get the fit dialed in - by a pro - spend time on your rig. Even if its on a trainer. During the spring I spend a lot of time racing on my road bike. It can take a week or two to get used to riding on the TT rig.
Overall I think you are new to your bike. Don't buy anything new yet - a new saddle can cost more than a proper bike fit and it's a lot cheaper than a 1080. Get the proper fit and just ride it. Don't make any changes to the bike once it is dialed in. Give your body a chance to get used to it. And most importantly - WORK ON YOUR CORE !
Worry about improving your power LT wheels... etc in the Spring.
BTW, I've been on the same ArioneTT saddle for 3 years.... if I have any comfort issues, it's usually not due to the saddle or the position. Searching for the most perfect / comfortable saddle will take you a life time. Any saddle will work just fine if your fit is correct.
First, before spend a lot of money on saddles, get a proper fit from someone that has experience with TT. From your posts, you haven't done that yet and how do you know if your fit is correct or not ? Aero / comfort / power efficiency tie in really well if done by the right professional. A racer can not do it without help.
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Bike_Fit/B...e_pie_650.html
Second (reply to PJC), spending a couple hours on a TT rig isn't unusual. I have an old school Aluminum TT rig - Abici Time Machine - that I have no problems sitting in the saddle for 5 hours on. Even though the events are no longer than an hour, training - at certain times of the year - will require LT sets varying from 30 minutes or longer; and several LT intervals per workout. Add on the rest periods and you are easily around 2-3 hours for a single workout.
Lastly, once you get the fit dialed in - by a pro - spend time on your rig. Even if its on a trainer. During the spring I spend a lot of time racing on my road bike. It can take a week or two to get used to riding on the TT rig.
Overall I think you are new to your bike. Don't buy anything new yet - a new saddle can cost more than a proper bike fit and it's a lot cheaper than a 1080. Get the proper fit and just ride it. Don't make any changes to the bike once it is dialed in. Give your body a chance to get used to it. And most importantly - WORK ON YOUR CORE !
Worry about improving your power LT wheels... etc in the Spring.
BTW, I've been on the same ArioneTT saddle for 3 years.... if I have any comfort issues, it's usually not due to the saddle or the position. Searching for the most perfect / comfortable saddle will take you a life time. Any saddle will work just fine if your fit is correct.
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That's true - but it only applies to a UCI regulated event. I don't think a local official, even for a State Championship, will ever check the 5cm nose or the other regulations for a TT bike.....
Masters Nats, I think, is the exception. UCI rules apply for those events.
Masters Nats, I think, is the exception. UCI rules apply for those events.
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Seriously, if the fit is proper it's just as comfortable if not more than a road bike. I prefer to ride my TT bike on my trainer - recent workouts are 3 hrs - it's more comfortable to just rest your upper body and let your legs do the work.
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Hello spinwax,
I've been through a number of saddles on my TT bike. I tried:
The only one that hasn't caused noticeable skin loss has been the Ares. So far it's a keeper.
When I was younger, my normal road saddle was fine for TTs -- even on a funny bike. Now it's a different story.
BTW, I ride a level saddle too.
I've been through a number of saddles on my TT bike. I tried:
- My usual saddle, a "classic" Flite
- A borrowed Fizik Arione
- A Vision Tri-Gel
- And, finally, a Fizik Ares
The only one that hasn't caused noticeable skin loss has been the Ares. So far it's a keeper.
When I was younger, my normal road saddle was fine for TTs -- even on a funny bike. Now it's a different story.
BTW, I ride a level saddle too.
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Levi and training partner Scott Nydam will routinely do 3 hour rides on their TT bikes.
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Hello spinwax,
I've been through a number of saddles on my TT bike. I tried:
The only one that hasn't caused noticeable skin loss has been the Ares. So far it's a keeper.
When I was younger, my normal road saddle was fine for TTs -- even on a funny bike. Now it's a different story.
BTW, I ride a level saddle too.
I've been through a number of saddles on my TT bike. I tried:
- My usual saddle, a "classic" Flite
- A borrowed Fizik Arione
- A Vision Tri-Gel
- And, finally, a Fizik Ares
The only one that hasn't caused noticeable skin loss has been the Ares. So far it's a keeper.
When I was younger, my normal road saddle was fine for TTs -- even on a funny bike. Now it's a different story.
BTW, I ride a level saddle too.