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Old 03-23-10, 11:57 AM   #151
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as I went up sugarloaf during the race, only 2 people went past me and that happened on the final lap.

the slowest speed going up sl, was 9.3 mph, cadence of 81, but as I went up, the speed increased to around 10-12mph and power was always peeked over 500 watts... and just over 600 on the final lap.

It was tough, but fun.

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I suppose if you live in Floriduh and you have little time to train on "hills'' something like this can be a leg breaker..if you are a real climber short steep climbs are harder for you than long relentless ones..I'll take my chances against WR at Ft Davis but he'd eat me alive on the short steep rollers we get in most races.
FWIW

I suspect what we in Chicago call a roller isn't what you consider a roller. I make a distinction between a "roller" and a steep ass hill.
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Old 03-23-10, 12:06 PM   #153
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I suppose if you live in Floriduh and you have little time to train on "hills'' something like this can be a leg breaker..if you are a real climber short steep climbs are harder for you than long relentless ones..I'll take my chances against WR at Ft Davis but he'd eat me alive on the short steep rollers we get in most races.
Having just returned from a training ride with my usual lunch group, the only thing I can eat alive right now is yogurt.
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Old 03-23-10, 12:14 PM   #154
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I suspect what we in Chicago call a roller isn't what you consider a roller. I make a distinction between a "roller" and a steep ass hill.
Yeah it's all relative, I used to get a kick out of what Texans called a climb when I first moved here from SoCal.

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Old 03-23-10, 01:22 PM   #155
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approx speed?

Cadence at 9 mph in a 39 x 27 is 76 rpm.
Cadence at 12 mph in a 39 x 27 is 101 rpm.
I have no idea how slow they did it in the 4s. I do have data for 35+.

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lap 1: 15.1mph (85rpms), 2:32
lap 2: 14.0mph (86rpms), 2:42
lap 3: 13.9mph (81rpms), 2:43
lap 4: 11.6mph (80rpms), 2:58
lap 5: 12.5mph (73rpms), 2:49
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Having just returned from a training ride with my usual lunch group, the only thing I can eat alive right now is yogurt.
That's going to be a classic.
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I have no idea how slow they did it in the 4s. I do have data for 35+.

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lap 1: 15.1mph (85rpms), 2:32
lap 2: 14.0mph (86rpms), 2:42
lap 3: 13.9mph (81rpms), 2:43
lap 4: 11.6mph (80rpms), 2:58
lap 5: 12.5mph (73rpms), 2:49
Cadence at 13.4 mph in a 39 x 27 is 113 rpm.
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Cadence at 13.4 mph in a 39 x 27 is 113 rpm.
Yes, I agree that Ford's choice of cassette was overkill. I only packed a 12-23. I think I actually did use the 23 a couple of times.
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Yes, I agree that Ford's choice of cassette was overkill. I only packed a 12-23. I think I actually did use the 23 a couple of times.
But you are also forgetting that I used that 27 with the big ring at various times in other hills...

I never had to shift to the small ring on any of the other hills + I could keep a comfortable cadence.
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But you are also forgetting that I used that 27 with the big ring at various times in other hills...

I never had to shift to the small ring on any of the other hills + I could keep a comfortable cadence.
even though I think I did my fair share of ball busting in this thread, you've got a point.

I hate, hate, hate, hate shifting my front in a race. If it's a real hill, then so be it, but I just don't like the chance of dropping a chain.

Just out of curiosity, if you just popped the 27 in without changing the chain, how close were you to ripping your derailer off, especially considering you were probably hammering in the 53-27?
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But you are also forgetting that I used that 27 with the big ring at various times in other hills...

I never had to shift to the small ring on any of the other hills + I could keep a comfortable cadence.


does your left hand have palsy?
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does your left hand have palsy?
I feel like you just hung a big fat watermelon over the plate here.
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even though I think I did my fair share of ball busting in this thread, you've got a point.

I hate, hate, hate, hate shifting my front in a race. If it's a real hill, then so be it, but I just don't like the chance of dropping a chain.

Just out of curiosity, if you just popped the 27 in without changing the chain, how close were you to ripping your derailer off, especially considering you were probably hammering in the 53-27?
I just kept thinking: spin it to win it... but I didn't win crap.

There was no problem with the RD reach using the 27t and the same chain as on my regular 23t.
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I just kept thinking: spin it to win it... but I didn't win crap.

There was no problem with the RD reach using the 27t and the same chain as on my regular 23t.
If this were the regular road forum they'd hang you by your Achilles for doing such a shoddy job sizing your chain.

Thank god this is the racing forum
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But you are also forgetting that I used that 27 with the big ring at various times in other hills...

I never had to shift to the small ring on any of the other hills + I could keep a comfortable cadence.
I only used the small ring for the loaf too, sunshine.

The key with the other hills is to have enough momentum to carry you up it. I found myself spinning out the 53x18 a couple of times going up one or two of them.
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I only used the small ring for the loaf too, sunshine.

The key with the other hills is to have enough momentum to carry you up it. I found myself spinning out the 53x18 a couple of times going up one or two of them.

We likes momentum, we needs it.
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Do we need a 33 hof thread?
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i tried to bring back the europe thread but it got locked
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gs's post about palsy made me burst out laughing...
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