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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley.girl View Post
    My question: I've been doing Women's Cat 4 races only this year. The previous two years I did some Women's open fields but those were an exercise in frustration. I only managed to hold on to the field in one of the Open fields, and that's because there were 9 of us and everyone was taking it easy because there was a major race the next day.

    This year, NJ split the Crit Championships into two days - one for Masters. Well, the person in charge of the Masters Crit Championship has decided to lump the Women, Men 55+ and Men 65+ into a single field, and throw in some non Masters championship races. I've never raced with the men before. My team is talking about boycotting in entirely. I'm not sure if I should try it or not. My team captain has me scared to race with men (that's how she broke her arm). After that race, I have two more crits left in my season and both are Women's Open fields. So I'm wondering if I should try to race with the older men, or take another weekend to work on hard intervals.

    I remember saying something about the fact that Masters 55+ and 65+ won't bounce back from injury as well as 25 year olds, so they tend to be more cautious. Plus they don't have an excess of the take stupid risks hormone like younger guys. But then this is a state championship race, so that may induce some risk behaviour.

    Is this your "A" race for the rest of the season? If so, try to convince your team to go. Otherwise, it might not be worth it to make waves.
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    Re slowing in the group: If it's safe, move over slightly out of the draft and into the wind to bleed off speed. A smooth veer is safer and more efficient than braking.
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    Is there any published or common sense guidance on blowing up gracefully (ie coming off a group in such a way as not to gap the guys behind you)?

    When I'm not totally nuked I try to accelerate and pull to the left (can't always accelerate).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef151 View Post
    Ok, that clears up that then. And good tip on the end, I would have never thought about that.

    I think a few members of the group get a little over excited about yelling things out, but again, its the only group ive rode in, so I wasnt sure what was normal. Thanks.
    you hear this quite a bit in low level crits when you go into a corner. people at the front don't know how to corner and get scared when they cut the apex late or just take a horrible line, and as such, brake. all the sudden four guys around you yells "braking," and all you want to yell out is: no effing s!ht, sherlock

    another thing you could do is to make sure you rim/brake gets dirty. mine (swissstop black) got to that point a week back, and would screech like a banshee when i just tapped it lightly. that ought to alert everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbie53 View Post
    Is there any published or common sense guidance on blowing up gracefully (ie coming off a group in such a way as not to gap the guys behind you)?

    When I'm not totally nuked I try to accelerate and pull to the left (can't always accelerate).

    At the very least give people behind you warning before you blow. And if you can, give every last ounce of energy you have to close up the gap for the rider behind after signalling. Basically, give the signal to pull through, stay where you are to shelter the rider coming up, then if you can pull over and up alongside the rider ahead, then make sure you are clear of anyone around, and ease off the power.

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    I'll put up my hand and just pull off, at the same speed I was going. Just don't do anything too abruptly. If you're falling off the pack, you probably don' t have many people behind you, and those folks are probably on their way out anyway. Closing your gap is going to hurt them no matter what you do.

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    garmin 500 owners.....I've approximated my pathetically low FTP and I'm trying to enter it into the garmin so it will calculate %s and zones.

    I'm having trouble with this. I followed the directions in the manual (i couldn't find any other areas to add FTP)
    bike settings -> bike 1 -> power zones ->

    but at that screen I hit buttons and nothing happens. ideas?

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    I think I've heard that for the 500 you have enter them in in Training Center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umd View Post
    I think I've heard that for the 500 you have enter them in in Training Center.
    i will try this.

    also this is pretty much the only useful thread in any of the road cycling groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by save10 View Post
    i will try this.

    also this is pretty much the only useful thread in any of the road cycling groups.
    for you maybe.

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    Ok so I've heard of "41" and "33" so what is that? Also, what's the point, per se, of this thread? If it's not for racing then wouldn't all the questions fall under the Road Cycling forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcosbullock View Post
    Ok so I've heard of "41" and "33" so what is that? Also, what's the point, per se, of this thread? If it's not for racing then wouldn't all the questions fall under the Road Cycling forum?

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    41 - road cycling forum
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    point of this thread: ask questions, get answers. same as "41" with 10x better signal to noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    41 - road cycling forum
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    point of this thread: ask questions, get answers. same as "41" with 10x better signal to noise.
    Where did the numbers come from? I'm guessing they have some meaning? Personally I love all of my threads being turned into "Lance doped! No he didnt!" threads. Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcosbullock View Post
    Where did the numbers come from? I'm guessing they have some meaning? Personally I love all of my threads being turned into "Lance doped! No he didnt!" threads. Haha
    The numbers come from the URL: e.g. "bikeforums/forumdisplay.php?41-Road-Cycling". Before the forum software upgrade, there didn't used to be the "-Road-Cycling" tacked on the end, and it still isn't necessary.

    Without getting into any arguments or discussions of the 33 vs. the 41, let's just say that this thread was created for people from either forum that didn't feel comfortable posting in the road cycling forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcosbullock View Post
    Where did the numbers come from? I'm guessing they have some meaning? Personally I love all of my threads being turned into "Lance doped! No he didnt!" threads. Haha
    Open the main page of the road forum and look at the url. Then do the same with the racing forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umd View Post
    The numbers come from the URL: e.g. "bikeforums/forumdisplay.php?41-Road-Cycling". Before the forum software upgrade, there didn't used to be the "-Road-Cycling" tacked on the end, and it still isn't necessary.

    Without getting into any arguments or discussions of the 33 vs. the 41, let's just say that this thread was created for people from either forum that didn't feel comfortable posting in the road cycling forum.
    Mods taking naps over there or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcosbullock View Post
    Mods taking naps over there or something?
    just move on man. let it go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcosbullock View Post
    Mods taking naps over there or something?
    Quote Originally Posted by Flatballer View Post
    just move on man. let it go.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatballer View Post
    just move on man. let it go.
    Just wondering what's going on man...don't get your chamois in a wad. If it were that taboo of a topic (the one this thread's apparently based on) then the thread would most likely be locked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcosbullock View Post
    Just wondering what's going on man...don't get your chamois in a wad. If it were that taboo of a topic (the one this thread's apparently based on) then the thread would most likely be locked.
    I'm currently on thin ice around here, but I think it is more like this:

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    he's new here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcosbullock View Post
    Just wondering what's going on man...don't get your chamois in a wad. If it were that taboo of a topic (the one this thread's apparently based on) then the thread would most likely be locked.
    I'm not a big "tip toe around" kind of guy. The 41 has many useless misinformed idiots, spreading their bad information like the plague, or just trolling for the fun of it. The 33 is full of elitist racer asswipes, but we tend to know what we're talking about or we don't say anything at all. This thread is intended to allow the sort of questions that normally pop up in the 41 (to a point...) to be answered by the people in the 33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeCanon View Post
    Do I get any points?
    You can have mine that I was "awarded" yesterday.
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    he's new here...
    Then he should refrain from being insulting.

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