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NickDavid 08-04-10 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by roadiejorge (Post 11230096)
Yeah I saw you mention that in another thread, I wonder if it was one of the less experienced guys because I only know a small group of them mainly the guys at the front of the pack who are racers/ex-racers. We're riding out to New Hope, PA from Newark which is about 112 miles RT or something to that effect. I'm considering joining the group because I don't want to keep latching on without being a part of it, my hesitation has been not being able to commit to going on all of their rides but one of the leaders said it wouldn't be a problem and he'd like me to join so I think I will.

Sounds awesome! If I didn't have plans on Sunday, I would join you.

El Diablo Rojo 08-04-10 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ijen0311 (Post 11229922)
OK, here's one I don't get.

I have these pedals on my bike and I'm always being told to change them. I like them and they work for me. What's the downside to them?

http://www.awcycles.co.uk/images/shi...0spd/a520a.jpg

Those are road spd's so if you want to keep using them then feel free..advantages:

Cleat will last forever.
Bullet proof
You can use mtb shoes
easier to walk in.
Disadvantages:
Heavy
Can't adjust float

himespau 08-04-10 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jwible (Post 11230115)
bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php?41-Road-Cycling

Each forum has an ID number in the URL. 41 is Road Cycling. 33 is Road Racing.

Ah yes. Don't I feel foolish. Actually, I'd been wondering that for some time, so I'm glad I found out.

roadiejorge 08-04-10 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich (Post 11230063)
Give me your Freds, your ill-adorned,
Your huddled Posers yearning to drink expensive coffee,
The wretched refuse of your C rides on Sunday morn'.
Send these, the clueless, hammerfest-tost to me,
I lift my CO2 pump beside the Starbucks door!

-Emma Lazarus

but Jorge, you do realize that your internet handle might be 33-cized, right:p?

ftfy

well it hasn't been thus far but we'll take it one step at a time.

echappist 08-04-10 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by roadiejorge (Post 11230290)
ftfy

well it hasn't been thus far but we'll take it one step at a time.

very well done. all you need know is to take credit for it:thumb:

Pedaleur 08-04-10 10:25 AM

Everyone wants to know, but apparently I'm the only one willing to ask: what the heck did you do to Mr. Beanz? And no playing coy. Out with it, young man!

Oh yeah, did you check your bars after your crash? No need to repeat the snapped bar incident.

caloso 08-04-10 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo (Post 11230239)
Those are road spd's so if you want to keep using them then feel free..advantages:

Cleat will last forever.
Bullet proof
You can use mtb shoes
easier to walk in.
Disadvantages:
Heavy
Can't adjust float

I'll add an advantage for tri-geeks: mtb shoes are much easier to run in --- which is a plus if your event has a big transition area. If you do a short course with a big field, it could make a difference.

Velo Gator 08-04-10 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by caloso (Post 11230359)
I'll add an advantage for tri-geeks: mtb shoes are much easier to run in --- which is a plus if your event has a big transition area. If you do a short course with a big field, it could make a difference.

I have tri shoes currently. I love them! They ventilate nicely during hot rides.

http://a1.zassets.com/images/z/1/0/7...p-DETAILED.jpg

StanSeven 08-04-10 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo (Post 11230239)
Those are road spd's so if you want to keep using them then feel free..advantages:

Cleat will last forever.
Bullet proof
You can use mtb shoes
easier to walk in.
Disadvantages:
Heavy
Can't adjust float

Another disadvantage is the contact area is so small and concentrated, it feels like a lump in the bottom of your foot.

Flatballer 08-04-10 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 11230483)
Another disadvantage is the contact area is so small and concentrated, it feels like a lump in the bottom of your foot.

With stiff shoes you won't really feel the cleat.

I use really stiff MTB shoes on my MTB with Crankbrothers pedals, and I never feel the cleat. Not that easy to walk in, but great for pedaling.

Flatballer 08-04-10 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by superdex (Post 11229973)
refresh me on bar tape wrapping, clockwise on the right, counterclockwise on the left --but is this from standing in front of the bike, or straddling the top-tube?

There's a simple way to remember. You want the tape wrapped so that you won't unravel it while you ride. This means that when riding in the tops, the bar tape goes over the top away from you, and under the bar towards you.

In the drops they go over the top to the outside of the bike. Just think about putting your hands on the bars and how they're likely to move as you ride. Your hands tend to move away from the bike always.

Brian Ratliff 08-04-10 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by substructure (Post 11229641)
Why do I see a lot of racer guys wearing full fingered gloves in the summer?

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Originally Posted by bcellis (Post 11229799)
I noticed a bunch of guys wearing them in crits this spring... still not 100% sure why either.

Just for added finger protection. I don't wear them myself (though at crits and on the track I do wear a set of Ironclad fingerless gloves which protect the hand better than your typical cycling gloves), but I understand why. In my last crash, my fingertips got a bit torn up. Nothing serious, but a PITA for a few days until they healed up. You don't see them in road races much simply because full fingered gloves are too hot.

mrbUSA 08-04-10 11:14 AM

Big fan of the 33 here [in a lurking capacity only]. Thanks for letting me post. I want to get faster to get into group rides but I'm intimidated greatly because I can't or just don't think I can hang. Need a sampling of advice that does not include HTFU.

Thanks, Mike

Out-The-Back 08-04-10 11:19 AM

As someone with roadrash on the tops of my knuckles right now, I'm definitely thinking about better gloves with a bit more protection for the next race.

jwible 08-04-10 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbUSA (Post 11230695)
Big fan of the 33 here [in a lurking capacity only]. Thanks for letting me post. I want to get faster to get into group rides but I'm intimidated greatly because I can't or just don't think I can hang. Need a sampling of advice that does not include HTFU.

Thanks, Mike

At the top of the 33 there is a workout recipe sticky. Look through it and you'll see some great workout that will make you stronger but entail suffering. Tabatas and ZeCannon intervals are my workouts of choice. And it's true, if you are slower than the group the only way to hang is to get stronger which means pushing harder i.e. HTFU.

-- Edit --

If you don't have a power meter you go by HR or perceived effort. TrainingPeaks.com should have good info on finding HR based zones and probably a description. FTP in general is the maximum steady state effort you can endure for 20 minutes. Do a 20 minute time trial, monitor your HR. That's your FTP. Base workouts on that number

gregf83 08-04-10 11:25 AM

Crashing a granfondo
 
There is an organized ride coming up from Vancouver to Whistler (Whistler GranFondo) on a scenic stretch of highway. They will be closing a lane and providing feed and aid stations along the way. The ride is full and cost was around $175.

What are your thoughts on doing the ride and enjoying the closed lane but not using any of the support? I have several friends who are planning to do this. I like the idea of a dedicated lane but have no interest in stopping at the feed stations.

roadiejorge 08-04-10 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gregf83 (Post 11230786)
There is an organized ride coming up from Vancouver to Whistler (Whistler GranFondo) on a scenic stretch of highway. They will be closing a lane and providing feed and aid stations along the way. The ride is full and cost was around $175.

What are your thoughts on doing the ride and enjoying the closed lane but not using any of the support? I have several friends who are planning to do this. I like the idea of a dedicated lane but have no interest in stopping at the feed stations.


This is typically frowned upon.

Ygduf 08-04-10 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gregf83 (Post 11230786)
There is an organized ride coming up from Vancouver to Whistler (Whistler GranFondo) on a scenic stretch of highway. They will be closing a lane and providing feed and aid stations along the way. The ride is full and cost was around $175.

What are your thoughts on doing the ride and enjoying the closed lane but not using any of the support? I have several friends who are planning to do this. I like the idea of a dedicated lane but have no interest in stopping at the feed stations.

It's poaching.

The organizer have permits for X number of riders, for which they have to pay for police, road closure, insurance, etc. If more show up the permitting organization may notice and get the organizer in trouble. Its hard enough getting people to put on rides without that hassle too. Sign up or do something else that day.

^^
better response from Eric, below.

mrbUSA 08-04-10 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jwible (Post 11230784)
At the top of the 33 there is a workout recipe sticky. Look through it and you'll see some great workout that will make you stronger but entail suffering. Tabatas and ZeCannon intervals are my workouts of choice. And it's true, if you are slower than the group the only way to hang is to get stronger which means pushing harder i.e. HTFU.

-- Edit --

If you don't have a power meter you go by HR or perceived effort. TrainingPeaks.com should have good info on finding HR based zones and probably a description. FTP in general is the maximum steady state effort you can endure for 20 minutes. Do a 20 minute time trial, monitor your HR. That's your FTP. Base workouts on that number

Thank you for your information. I have an HRM and usually blow it out of the zone on each and every ride. I don't think I am terribly out of shape at all but my HR is huge compared to what it is "supposed to be."

I will check out the sticky.

M

timster 08-04-10 11:45 AM

Are the little screws that hold brake pad cartridges in place really necessary?

I have gone several rides without them and didn't notice any problem. The pads already fit pretty snug. Not having them makes pad swaps a little less annoying.

mike868y 08-04-10 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbUSA (Post 11230965)
Thank you for your information. I have an HRM and usually blow it out of the zone on each and every ride. I don't think I am terribly out of shape at all but my HR is huge compared to what it is "supposed to be."

I will check out the sticky.

M

Don't compare your heart rate to others. Find your lthr and base your zones off of that.

Blackdays 08-04-10 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by timster (Post 11230983)
Are the little screws that hold brake pad cartridges in place really necessary?

I have gone several rides without them and didn't notice any problem. The pads already fit pretty snug. Not having them makes pad swaps a little less annoying.

That's a risk you shouldn't be willing to take. I would put those screws back in.

timster 08-04-10 11:53 AM

Well if there is any risk, I will put them back in. I'm wondering if there is any risk, or if they are just "lawyer tabs" for brakes.

mazdaspeed 08-04-10 11:57 AM

Do external bearing bottom brackets work on older steel frames with english threaded bottom brackets? I'm trying to build a cheap racing bike and am looking for some kind of cheap crankset + bb on ebay.

Racer Ex 08-04-10 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by timster (Post 11230983)
Are the little screws that hold brake pad cartridges in place really necessary?

I have gone several rides without them and didn't notice any problem. The pads already fit pretty snug. Not having them makes pad swaps a little less annoying.

If you roll backwards and apply the brakes you can yank them out. I don't run them in my TT stuff.


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