The 41 refugee thread
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link: https://www.hammernutrition.com/produ...navcat=bottles
and you'll want to take some of these:
https://www.hammernutrition.com/produ...-energy-drinks
I'm really hoping the heat breaks soon.
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How heavy are you, how many hours a year are you riding?
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Has coddling tendencies.
Always? Every time? That would be most disheartening. Do you get headaches if you do any other thing outside for over an hour? Just being in the sun and heat? Is your outdoorsy lifestyle new to you? Allergies?
The other issue that people don't often want to talk about is caffeine. As wonderful as it is, it has a dark side, which is that it's addictive. If you don't feed the need, you get a headache. Some are more prone and sensitive to it than others. For years I was a happy caffeine consumer, then something changed and the headaches were increasingly annoying and the demand for caffeine increased. I tried to avoid the obvious, but ultimately I had to cut it all out. The result? No more headaches.
The other issue that people don't often want to talk about is caffeine. As wonderful as it is, it has a dark side, which is that it's addictive. If you don't feed the need, you get a headache. Some are more prone and sensitive to it than others. For years I was a happy caffeine consumer, then something changed and the headaches were increasingly annoying and the demand for caffeine increased. I tried to avoid the obvious, but ultimately I had to cut it all out. The result? No more headaches.
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With KissSisko's comment I'm curious how some of the higher level racers feel about coffee and their training.
#283
Has coddling tendencies.
I honestly thought the 41 v 33 was a gag, a ruse, a wink wink joke. Perhaps most felt the same way, but it only takes one or a few to ignite a firestorm. That's understandable given that we're dealing with words, and the grin behind the words are unseen unless you add a winky.
If this thread is to be renamed, it should reflect the subject, which is sincere questions and answers above what you may find elsewhere. The idea is a specific question, followed by specific answers. No trolling and posturing and what all. Yesterday I would have suggested The 33 Help Desk. Of course, having a general Q&A thread in a racing forum doesn't make sense, while it would make sense in the road forum. If there was a thread like this in the road forum, it would no doubt have to be maintained, or policed. The problem with the road forum oftentimes is there's a lot of opinion tossed around as if fact, plus misinformation (some deliberate), or irrelevant information. In general, I always thought that was just the nature of a public BB, where (hopefully) the cream information seems to rise to the top.
In contrast, the racing forum attracts a fair number of people who have successfully filtered out the noise and misinformation, and most basic road bike issues have long been figured out. So what's left is the heart of cycling, the joys and challenges (faster, further, higher). That's the stuff I want to read and learn about, and then share in kind. If that's perceived as elitist, then that has more to do with the human issues of envy, self esteem and insecurity, which other than mocking and making fun of as an obvious (I thought it was obvious) gag or ruse, isn't likely to be resolved on a bike forum.
Mods, if you feel no more needs to be said about this and the line has been drawn, I'll accept that and zip it.
If this thread is to be renamed, it should reflect the subject, which is sincere questions and answers above what you may find elsewhere. The idea is a specific question, followed by specific answers. No trolling and posturing and what all. Yesterday I would have suggested The 33 Help Desk. Of course, having a general Q&A thread in a racing forum doesn't make sense, while it would make sense in the road forum. If there was a thread like this in the road forum, it would no doubt have to be maintained, or policed. The problem with the road forum oftentimes is there's a lot of opinion tossed around as if fact, plus misinformation (some deliberate), or irrelevant information. In general, I always thought that was just the nature of a public BB, where (hopefully) the cream information seems to rise to the top.
In contrast, the racing forum attracts a fair number of people who have successfully filtered out the noise and misinformation, and most basic road bike issues have long been figured out. So what's left is the heart of cycling, the joys and challenges (faster, further, higher). That's the stuff I want to read and learn about, and then share in kind. If that's perceived as elitist, then that has more to do with the human issues of envy, self esteem and insecurity, which other than mocking and making fun of as an obvious (I thought it was obvious) gag or ruse, isn't likely to be resolved on a bike forum.
Mods, if you feel no more needs to be said about this and the line has been drawn, I'll accept that and zip it.
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I vary. Gu Brew, clif sports drink, and dedicated athlete's stuff is what I tend to rotate through if it's going to be a "hard" day. I like hammer's perpetuim for those long slow days. I pick and choose based on what I can find for cheap.
Under 90 minutes and I'm probably just doing water with endurolytes mixed in, but I'll use sports drink if it's going to be longer than that. I like to keep a bottle of water handy to water cool my engine every now and then via a splash to the head -- sports drink over the cabeza just makes a nasty sticky mess. Plus, having a bottle of water gives you an easy way to wash your eyes out.
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heed gives me bad gas. seriously.
I vary. Gu Brew, clif sports drink, and dedicated athlete's stuff is what I tend to rotate through if it's going to be a "hard" day. I like hammer's perpetuim for those long slow days. I pick and choose based on what I can find for cheap.
Under 90 minutes and I'm probably just doing water with endurolytes mixed in, but I'll use sports drink if it's going to be longer than that.
I vary. Gu Brew, clif sports drink, and dedicated athlete's stuff is what I tend to rotate through if it's going to be a "hard" day. I like hammer's perpetuim for those long slow days. I pick and choose based on what I can find for cheap.
Under 90 minutes and I'm probably just doing water with endurolytes mixed in, but I'll use sports drink if it's going to be longer than that.
and yeah i only use it for 2+ hrs or hard efforts, otherwise just water. It was the first thing i found that didnt bother my stomach or taste awful (orange) so ive stuck with it. And the taste is real subtle which i like.
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I do use a caffeinated gel late in very long rides/races. It works a lot better when you are not habituated.
It wasn't hard to kick caffeine- I just started putting some decaf beans in the grinder every morning, and increased the amount over time.
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I'm ok with renaming the thread
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Always? Every time? That would be most disheartening. Do you get headaches if you do any other thing outside for over an hour? Just being in the sun and heat? Is your outdoorsy lifestyle new to you? Allergies?
The other issue that people don't often want to talk about is caffeine. As wonderful as it is, it has a dark side, which is that it's addictive. If you don't feed the need, you get a headache. Some are more prone and sensitive to it than others. For years I was a happy caffeine consumer, then something changed and the headaches were increasingly annoying and the demand for caffeine increased. I tried to avoid the obvious, but ultimately I had to cut it all out. The result? No more headaches.
The other issue that people don't often want to talk about is caffeine. As wonderful as it is, it has a dark side, which is that it's addictive. If you don't feed the need, you get a headache. Some are more prone and sensitive to it than others. For years I was a happy caffeine consumer, then something changed and the headaches were increasingly annoying and the demand for caffeine increased. I tried to avoid the obvious, but ultimately I had to cut it all out. The result? No more headaches.
Yeah. It's attached to our Trek store. Nice to not have to pay shipping.
#293
Has coddling tendencies.
I loved everything about coffee too. Sigh...
#294
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Every time. I'm going to try the electrolyte suggestion next time and see how that goes. I don't do caffeine. I have sinus problems but those are constant... I'm used to that. This headache is pinpointed right between my eyebrows. Cycling is really the only time I'm out in the heat. I run also, but I do it when its much cooler out. I don't get the headaches then.
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One possible reason is your posture and form while you ride. Certain muscles might be squeezing certain nerve channels, and while they might not seem related, the back of your neck/between your shoulder blades might be the problem area. Maybe your shoulder or neck muscles may need to strengthen over time, especially if you're riding for periods of time in a more aero position. A sports doctor would probably be able to evaluate that issue. There's also a women's specific forum here on BF, so maybe you can inquire there.
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One possible reason is your posture and form while you ride. Certain muscles might be squeezing certain nerve channels, and while they might not seem related, the back of your neck/between your shoulder blades might be the problem area. Maybe your shoulder or neck muscles may need to strengthen over time, especially if you're riding for periods of time in a more aero position. A sports doctor would probably be able to evaluate that issue. There's also a women's specific forum here on BF, so maybe you can inquire there.
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My team is out of a trek store, and they stock Heed...im blessed with deep discounts.
meh, id even ride a trek if they really wanted me to...
But theyd have to really really want me to $$.
meh, id even ride a trek if they really wanted me to...
But theyd have to really really want me to $$.
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I would not go overboard on the G2. I always take at least one bottle of straight water. Once you go too syrupy with the gatorade it makes me more thirsty. I once did a 95+*F 30 miles RR with one bottle of G2 and one of water...never again will I mix it to full strength. I do much better with regular water and chews/gels/pills then trying to mix too much in liquid form.
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Guarana Shots. Amazing.
When a hammer goes to the front and lines it out into a headwing and your legs are feeling bollocks, I pop these when I get a chance and the leg pain gets numb and I feel a bit better.
This stuff has my stamp of approval.
When a hammer goes to the front and lines it out into a headwing and your legs are feeling bollocks, I pop these when I get a chance and the leg pain gets numb and I feel a bit better.
This stuff has my stamp of approval.
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I would not go overboard on the G2. I always take at least one bottle of straight water. Once you go too syrupy with the gatorade it makes me more thirsty. I once did a 95+*F 30 miles RR with one bottle of G2 and one of water...never again will I mix it to full strength. I do much better with regular water and chews/gels/pills then trying to mix too much in liquid form.