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umd 08-04-10 08:39 AM

The 41 refugee thread
 
Ask your non-racing road cycling questions here. Keep it civil please. Anyone who asks about shaving, what to wear under their shorts, or any other similarly innane topics will be drawn and quartered.

Creakyknees 08-04-10 08:44 AM

is it a good idea to wear a base layer?

umd 08-04-10 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creakyknees (Post 11229620)
is it a good idea to wear a base layer?

Yes

Velo Vol 08-04-10 08:46 AM

Why has the 41 gotten so dumb lately?

substructure 08-04-10 08:46 AM

Why do I see a lot of racer guys wearing full fingered gloves in the summer?

hammy56 08-04-10 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 11229638)
Why has the 41 gotten so dumb lately?

lately?

jmechy 08-04-10 08:50 AM

What is best, SRAM, Shimano or Campy?
Lance rides SRAM, so it must be the best, right?

coasting 08-04-10 08:51 AM

much as i dislike giving any credibility to 33 sneering, but the 41 has lurched south in last couple of days. help.

umd 08-04-10 08:51 AM

Ok the idea is not to emulate the 41...

Velo Vol 08-04-10 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammy56 (Post 11229650)
lately?

Yes, even more so than normal, if you can believe it.

hammy56 08-04-10 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 11229677)
Yes, even more so than normal, if you can believe it.

yeah, I can.

coasting 08-04-10 08:55 AM

i have a question.

what is the angle of your foot at the bottom of your pedal stroke. i rode with my rode nazi friends a few weeks ago and they got me to lower my seat so i could get a bit of ankle down action and it really helped. i had felt my seat was a teeny bit high but not enough to cause hip rocking. the lowering was tiny, but the ankle down really added a noticeable amount of power on the climb. it works for me but i wonder if this is what most people do.

jwible 08-04-10 08:59 AM

I tend to be nearly flat footed when trying to spin circles on climbs or FTP efforts on the flat. When I don't concentrate I tend to have my toes pointing down a bit.

When you say ankle down you mean closer to the horizontal plane of the spindle but not below that plane, correct?

coasting 08-04-10 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwible (Post 11229741)
I tend to be nearly flat footed when trying to spin circles on climbs or FTP efforts on the flat. When I don't concentrate I tend to have my toes pointing down a bit.

When you say ankle down you mean closer to the horizontal plane of the spindle but not below that plane, correct?

actually it is ever so slightly below horizontal.

El Diablo Rojo 08-04-10 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coasting (Post 11229708)
i have a question.

what is the angle of your foot at the bottom of your pedal stroke. i rode with my rode nazi friends a few weeks ago and they got me to lower my seat so i could get a bit of ankle down action and it really helped. i had felt my seat was a teeny bit high but not enough to cause hip rocking. the lowering was tiny, but the ankle down really added a noticeable amount of power on the climb. it works for me but i wonder if this is what most people do.

My climbing pedal stroke is different than my flat land pedal stroke. I do have a relatively flat angle to my foot on both pedal strokes but while climbing in the seated position I actually drop my heel after coming over the top. FWIW I've seen some pretty fast guys (Ex for one) who use a more toe down pedal stroke to pretty good effect.

Racer Ex 08-04-10 09:05 AM

Varies from person to person. I pedal toe down, as did some notable pros like Iban Mayo. Heel down bothers my knee. If something works for you then it works for you.

(EDR beat me to it...)

umd 08-04-10 09:06 AM

I tend to be slightly toes down unless I concentrate on it a bit. I tried forcing myself to go heel down for a while some time ago, but long-term it didn't work well for me. I noticed some slight immediate power gains but ultimately decided it was because I was pushing harder while concentrating on it. I started to have some achilles soreness earlier in the season and noticed if I dropped my heal a little more it went away, so I lowered my saddle a few mm and that helped, but that makes me closer to horizontal, nowhere near heel down.

bcellis 08-04-10 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by substructure (Post 11229641)
Why do I see a lot of racer guys wearing full fingered gloves in the summer?

I noticed a bunch of guys wearing them in crits this spring... still not 100% sure why either.

Doohickie 08-04-10 09:07 AM

umd: Can I post here?

umd 08-04-10 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doohickie (Post 11229804)
umd: Can I post here?

yes

bdcheung 08-04-10 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcellis (Post 11229799)
I noticed a bunch of guys wearing them in crits this spring... still not 100% sure why either.

Do you work? Does your work involve a keyboard? Ever try typing with road rash on your fingers?

umd 08-04-10 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdcheung (Post 11229813)
Do you work? Does your work involve a keyboard? Ever try typing with road rash on your fingers?

It's like a base-layer for your hands :thumb:

roadiejorge 08-04-10 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by umd (Post 11229675)
Ok the idea is not to emulate the 41...

God I hope so. So is this the Ellis Island equivalent of the 33?

umd 08-04-10 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadiejorge (Post 11229834)
God I hope so. So is this the Ellis Island equivalent of the 33?

Something like that

jwible 08-04-10 09:20 AM

Give us your tired your humble huddled masses yearning to post harassment free.


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