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    The 41 refugee thread

    Ask your non-racing road cycling questions here. Keep it civil please. Anyone who asks about shaving, what to wear under their shorts, or any other similarly innane topics will be drawn and quartered.

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    is it a good idea to wear a base layer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
    is it a good idea to wear a base layer?
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    Why has the 41 gotten so dumb lately?

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    Why do I see a lot of racer guys wearing full fingered gloves in the summer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
    Why has the 41 gotten so dumb lately?
    lately?

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    What is best, SRAM, Shimano or Campy?
    Lance rides SRAM, so it must be the best, right?

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    much as i dislike giving any credibility to 33 sneering, but the 41 has lurched south in last couple of days. help.
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    Ok the idea is not to emulate the 41...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammy56 View Post
    lately?
    Yes, even more so than normal, if you can believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
    Yes, even more so than normal, if you can believe it.
    yeah, I can.

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    i have a question.

    what is the angle of your foot at the bottom of your pedal stroke. i rode with my rode nazi friends a few weeks ago and they got me to lower my seat so i could get a bit of ankle down action and it really helped. i had felt my seat was a teeny bit high but not enough to cause hip rocking. the lowering was tiny, but the ankle down really added a noticeable amount of power on the climb. it works for me but i wonder if this is what most people do.
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    I tend to be nearly flat footed when trying to spin circles on climbs or FTP efforts on the flat. When I don't concentrate I tend to have my toes pointing down a bit.

    When you say ankle down you mean closer to the horizontal plane of the spindle but not below that plane, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwible View Post
    I tend to be nearly flat footed when trying to spin circles on climbs or FTP efforts on the flat. When I don't concentrate I tend to have my toes pointing down a bit.

    When you say ankle down you mean closer to the horizontal plane of the spindle but not below that plane, correct?
    actually it is ever so slightly below horizontal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coasting View Post
    i have a question.

    what is the angle of your foot at the bottom of your pedal stroke. i rode with my rode nazi friends a few weeks ago and they got me to lower my seat so i could get a bit of ankle down action and it really helped. i had felt my seat was a teeny bit high but not enough to cause hip rocking. the lowering was tiny, but the ankle down really added a noticeable amount of power on the climb. it works for me but i wonder if this is what most people do.
    My climbing pedal stroke is different than my flat land pedal stroke. I do have a relatively flat angle to my foot on both pedal strokes but while climbing in the seated position I actually drop my heel after coming over the top. FWIW I've seen some pretty fast guys (Ex for one) who use a more toe down pedal stroke to pretty good effect.

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    Varies from person to person. I pedal toe down, as did some notable pros like Iban Mayo. Heel down bothers my knee. If something works for you then it works for you.

    (EDR beat me to it...)

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    I tend to be slightly toes down unless I concentrate on it a bit. I tried forcing myself to go heel down for a while some time ago, but long-term it didn't work well for me. I noticed some slight immediate power gains but ultimately decided it was because I was pushing harder while concentrating on it. I started to have some achilles soreness earlier in the season and noticed if I dropped my heal a little more it went away, so I lowered my saddle a few mm and that helped, but that makes me closer to horizontal, nowhere near heel down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by substructure View Post
    Why do I see a lot of racer guys wearing full fingered gloves in the summer?
    I noticed a bunch of guys wearing them in crits this spring... still not 100% sure why either.

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    umd: Can I post here?
    I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.



    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcellis View Post
    I noticed a bunch of guys wearing them in crits this spring... still not 100% sure why either.
    Do you work? Does your work involve a keyboard? Ever try typing with road rash on your fingers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
    Do you work? Does your work involve a keyboard? Ever try typing with road rash on your fingers?
    It's like a base-layer for your hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by umd View Post
    Ok the idea is not to emulate the 41...
    God I hope so. So is this the Ellis Island equivalent of the 33?
    I like pie

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadiejorge View Post
    God I hope so. So is this the Ellis Island equivalent of the 33?
    Something like that

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