gsteinb

Jonathan Chodroff has admitted to buying and using erythropoietin (EPO) in early 2007 and has been given a two-year sanction by USADA. The American, who rode for Jelly Belly in 2010, purchased the doping product online through a store run by Joe Papp before turning professional in 2009. He has fully confessed and has urged other riders who may be under investigation by USADA to do the same.

“I’m taking full responsibility for purchasing a doping product over the internet about three and a half years ago,” Chodroff told Cyclingnews. “It was an internet store that was later to be revealed to be managed or designed or backed by Joe Papp.

“I couldn’t live with myself by fighting this. It’s not fair to USADA and it’s not fair to the other riders. I want to fully admit to my errors.”

Chodroff was contacted by USADA over a week ago. The governing body wrote a letter explaining that they had electronic evidence linking him with the online store. He immediately called USADA and fully confessed.

“I deeply regret my actions and that I’ve let down my family, friends and the entire cycling community. I’ll have to live with this for the rest of my life,” he said. “The least I can do is be completely honest with the governing body and take full responsibility for my actions.”


https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chod...rchase-and-use

wanders

link?

pjcampbell

That sucks. IMO, he should get his Elite stars& bars taken away. i dont care if he bought EPO in 07 and raced in 08.

pjcampbell

clearly the lesson to learn is to get your EPO from a reputable source...

but seriously i dont know, but doesn't EPO go in intravenously ???? doesn't it take a lot to monitor levels of something or other?? or is this a NYC studio apartment operation.

sounds like a lot of work for an cat1 to do himself??? i have no clue how this crap works.

substructure

www.eposino.com

https://www.justice.gov/usao/paw/pr/2..._02_17_01.html

VA_Esquire

this is why I dope in the CAT5s....by the time I get up to CAT 3s it is out of my system....................

:thumbsdown:

waterrockets 

echappist

holy effing s!ht!!! this means that he bought them even before he graduated from college in 2007. Rich kids, they are different from you & me alright. While i never rode with him, he was on my school's team & i've heard about his insane FTP (though he was like 190lbs or something) and even more horrible bike handling skills.

carpediemracing 

https://sprinterdellacasa.blogspot.co...2/big-tex.html

No, I didn't order. Yes I looked through all the pages. It was very interesting. You could do a full season of EPO (which seems to be the thing to do, as opposed to steroids or HGH or whatever else) for about $1000. There was a forum with user tips (I'm guessing JP put them up). One of the topics was, I think, a link to a hematocrit measuring machine, for checking yourself.

Some emails I got from the site:

Subj: Are you concerned about being subjected to a Blood Test?
Text: If you are, arm yourself with the knowledge that will help you determine whether or not you should rent that camper van and disappear into the mountains for a few weeks: (link to forum post)

Subj:300is HGH Special!
Text:Special Offer - HGH 300iu
We have Special Offer for the first client to respond and make payment:
*300iu* of Jintropin HGH (3x100iu; 10x10iu presentations) for $900USD + shipping and insurance.
Delivery guarantee to USA (California and Arizona addresses excluded), UK and many other countries. Please inquire specifically for guarantee to your location.
Reference "300iu" in email to eposino@cyber-rights.net.

Subj: 120k Special EPOSINO
Text:120k Special
120,000iu EPOSINO rh-EPO
(2 presentations of 60,000iu - 10x6,000iu pre-filled syringes)
$900 including shipping, must be paid in full by 23:59GMT May 28, 2007.
Includes 100 0uaranteed delivery to USA (states of California and Arizona excluded) and some other countries via express courier. Please inquiry about delivery guarantee to other locations.
Reference "120k" in email to eposino@cyber-rights.net.

I saved them for reference for the blog. People didn't believe how cheap EPO was (relatively speaking). $500 gets you set up for the heart of the summer, $1000 for a year long thing (although that's probably overkill). Seeing as I was spending $100 a weekend racing (entry fee, gas, food), it's only 5 weeks racing worth of money to dope up for the whole summer.

There were pictures too, but unfortunately I didn't save any.

cdr

ZeCanon

Many more to go.

Namenda

Nope, it usually is given subcutaneously, just like an insulin injection. Very simple to do. As for monitoring levels, the microdosing that the drug cheats tend to participate in won't raise the Hct to a dangerous level except in extreme circumstances. It seems they have learned from the examples set back in the 90's, when several cyclists unexpectedly died from apparently using too much.

gsteinb

Over on the board Chodroff used to post on (all his posts were deleted) he's basically be given a pass because he was a kid who made a stupid mistake. I'm burnt on this sport and the legions of ****ing stupid people who seem to flock to it. I'm tired of double standards and self serving bull ****.

Homebrew01

There are forums you can join to learn the ins & out of self administering PEDS. Just as BF members will tell you how to install a bottom bracket, PED forums will tell you how to inject, mask, taper off before doping tests etc ... pretty sad. Getting friendly with the right guys at fitness clubs is another option.

substructure

Fitness guys at the gym usually tell you to go all out with it. No taper. No easing in. Nothing. Just balls to the wall gear until your kidneys jump out of your gut and wave a white flag.
A guy my brother knows (gym rat, bouncer, etc) is close to 300 pounds - no fat. He told me that he's on tons of gear and stuff to help him stay lean. On top of that he drinks 10-14 monsters a day. That tells you most of them are about going all out. No holding back. This guy must not sleep. Just passes out comatose.

echappist

No one this conniving is stupid, especially not someone who went to a top notch school. It turned out to be a calculated risk he took, and he got a pro contract out of it, and it probably won't haunt him in his career after cycling. Can't believe the stupid group-think mentality of "he's one of us."

ridethecliche

Yup.

I was on a board for other workout stuff and they had a subforum dedicated to it. That's what you get when you have a website dedicated to bodybuilding. The people know how to use it and tell others to do so as well. The issue is the guys who don't really know and spout off info, that gets people into issues (medically). I read so much about which cycles to run, how to run them, etc because I think it's interesting. Then again, they're not getting tested for it so the going 'all out' thing is pretty accurate.

wanders

You were on their site. You were on their mailing list. Prepare to have your upgrade revoked.

badhat

pardon my ignorance but are there any dope controls in cosmetic competitive body building or is it a free for all?

badhat

ahaha

"we're gonna need that case of clif bars back too"

ridethecliche

wasn't that umd?

Not really.

There are natty events though. There's the 'pro' federation, and the natty pro federation. A bunch of the natty guys are monsters too.

Though to be honest, a lot of guys that are bodybuilding aren't all that heavy. I think arnold was 235 in contest and 260 in offseason (google search). The 'strongmen' competitions draw the really huge guys. Powerlifters too, but those guys sniff ammonia and stuff during meets so there's already something wrong with their head.

Issaquatch

One of Chodroff's quotes in the cyclingnews articles:

So if you don't get caught its okay to keep on being dishonest?

I don't see any reason to feel any sympathy for the guy when he confessed after he was caught and after he was already looking to quit racing.

kensuf

Yeah, I saw that too and scratched my head.

Apus^2

I think the USADA should have given a grace period (USADA would have had to advertise it somehow) for the dopers to turn themselves in before the USADA notified them of the charges (this option giving them the most leniency). If they didn't turn themselves in and admit only after they were notified of the evidence, less leniency (or none at all), and then none if they fight the charge.

That way they may have flushed a few out that they had missed.

El Diablo Rojo

I've been saying basically the same thing for years. Give these guys amnesty for one month. Come forward, admit what you've done, name the people who supplied you and you get a free pass. No retro-active punishments. No stripping of wins or medals. No law suits. Get caught in the future lifetime ban. What I find most abhorrent is that the DS's get off with out any punishment. They are facilitators and should be punished along with the athlete.

G if this sport was run like others, with owners who make money off of the fans rather than from a sponsor you'd see a lot less of this doping coming out into the open. The riders have no union and honestly have no one who's got their back. There is little doubt that European Football is as dope filled as cycling. So is US Football and Basketball.

mebaxter

Not really. You have so called "Natural Bodybuilders" who can't use illiegal stuff like steroids, growth hormone and insulin, but anything OTC is fair game. Then there is the open class which is pretty much a free for all. The testing for the natural class is a joke. Many times it's just a question either verbal or written "Did you use illegal drugs". Uhhhh nope. "OK go compete". Your lucky to get an accurate scale at most amateur shows let alone actual blood or urine tests.