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tubular glue -- tube vs can (vittoria mastik one)

Old 12-27-10, 06:19 PM
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tubular glue -- tube vs can (vittoria mastik one)

hey, all:
got my first set of tubular wheels & tires and plan to take my time with the gluing. i don't want to make this a debate about tubular v clincher, glue v tape, or brand x v brand y of glue.

vittoria mastik one is what i've settled on. you can either buy it by the 30g tube or the 250g can. the can's not much of a savings, but i figure it might save on packaging. the can is equivalent to 8.3 tubes.

is there any reason not to go with the can over the tubes?

if one goes the tube route, is the application of glue to rim less messy (i.e., is the tube itself the applicator?), or does one need an applicator of some sort regardless of tube or can?

if the can is properly sealed but kept in a garage (where temps drop to <=40F), will the glue suffer or last a shorter amount of time?

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Negatives: eventually gets stiff/dries. You lose some through drips and such. Sides of can get sticky after a while.
Positives: you're not stuck with one "applicator". You can use more or less. It's usually easier to find the can. You can touch up a re-glue job without using up too much glue. Or you can really pile on the glue if you choose. While gluing you can put down the can without worrying about it leaking.

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Negatives: Where the heck did I put it? I find it less neat to apply glue from tube. Open tube on its side leaks glue.
Positives: easy to see how much you need (a tube). Sealed until use. Recapped glue tubes are usable for a while.

If you're gluing a lot of tires and you have a preferred method, can. If you're just gluing when you glue, then tubes.

I prefer cans for mass gluing (had it in the shop and personally for a while) but I use tubes. I prefer to apply glue with a more flexible thing like a short bristle brush, usually built into the can's lid.

Technically the glue in the shop was actually transferred to a waterbottle. We used the bottle as the applicator, that worked okay. The nozzle is wider than a tube end so a better applicator. Soft plastic also works better than the edgy metal tube.

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Unless you're gluing a lot of tires in a short period, or don't mind a less than optimal glue quality, the can is false economy.

It's a buck or two.
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I vote tube. I squeeze it out right onto the rim. Then with a scrap of plastic over my finger I spread it out. Repeat with the tire.
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thanks, guys. sounds like the tubes are the way to go for me.

the can doesn't really save much (any?) money, but i thought it might result in less waste/packaging/etc.
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All I'm going to say is I used a bit more than 1/3 of a can of Mastik (at least 80 grams--a tube is 30) to glue a pair of 24mm tires the other week. I'm new at this, but I knew it was too much. I am pretty paranoid about getting the stuff everywhere it needs to be though (and the tire/rim were both unglued).

So I think that tubes are a wise decision.
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I go through enough that the can makes sense....that said - based on what people here mentioned I decided that the can wasn't for me. I buy cases of the tubes and that's what I still use. Works great for me.

Everyone has their own method. I use the tube and an acid brush that you can pick up at any hardware store. I have piles of both sitting right next to my work area so when I glue I grab one of each and I am off to the races.
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