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    New Track BIke

    I had a great time this year racing and training at the LA Velodrome in Carson, CA and had the opportunity to meet new cyclists as well as race with Cleave. Traveling with a bike on the airlines is getting harder and more expensive each year plus the risk of damage and loss. So I decided to rent a locker at the velodrome and put an additional track bike there so I could fly down and race.

    I decided on a Felt TK2.

    Classic garage door pic, 58 cm frame size.



    The carbon endurance bars that come stock are very cool.

    Here is the marketing pitch from the bar manufacturer...

    SPHINX is a dedicated endurance racing bar. World points racing champion Cameron Meyer helped our team engineer this design. Its unique forward ‘bend’ supports the rider in the ‘sphinx’ wide-aero position pioneered by the great Spanish track champion Joan Llaneras. This innovative bar combines a new UCI-compliant aerofoil top section with lower handholds from the established and popular ERGOSUM. The ‘wingtips’ of the aerofoil meet the upper part of the round-section drops, which are slightly tilted up. This allows riders to hook their wrists inside the bend, palms facing outwards. The vertical section of the ‘bend’ flattens into a narrow aerofoil section, and then joins the bottoms which provide a conventional round-section handhold for the sprint. SPHINX provides optimized positions for points and Madison races that alternate between level high speed and all-out sprinting.



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    You'll win Worlds next year just based on how bad ass that bike looks.

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    Those handlebars are an abomination.

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    It makes sense now after finding a pic.


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    great looking bike -
    and those bars make lots of sense after reading the blurb.
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    That's a pretty bike there. Makes me jealous. My track bike is nowhere near as classy.
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    if I had a track bike I would get those bars.

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    I gotta try track riding once before I die ... I'm a crit type guy, so I'd probably like it.
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    Track racing is a blast. We need a track in CT, an indoor one. One of us must know someone in the hedge fund biz that needs to cash out before the stuff hits the fan. A few mil and we'd have a beautiful track somewhere on a cheap piece of property, ideally centrally located near some highway. Pellet stoves for heat or something, maybe geothermal.

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    forgot. that's a kick ass bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo View Post
    You'll win Worlds next year just based on how bad ass that bike looks.
    You have part of the equation. Having a bad ass bike in LA on the 250 meter track and training and racing with the bad ass fast guys will make a difference at Manchester next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwible View Post
    It makes sense now after finding a pic.

    That is a great pic. I had my bike on the trainer and the hand position shown is quite comfortable. I like the stripes painted on the leading edge of the 3T bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
    Track racing is a blast. We need a track in CT, an indoor one. One of us must know someone in the hedge fund biz that needs to cash out before the stuff hits the fan. A few mil and we'd have a beautiful track somewhere on a cheap piece of property, ideally centrally located near some highway. Pellet stoves for heat or something, maybe geothermal.
    I will second that track racing is a total rush. CDR, what you need is a hedge fund principal who has already made his millions, is not under federal investigation and is an avid track racer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
    Track racing is a blast. We need a track in CT, an indoor one. One of us must know someone in the hedge fund biz that needs to cash out before the stuff hits the fan. A few mil and we'd have a beautiful track somewhere on a cheap piece of property, ideally centrally located near some highway. Pellet stoves for heat or something, maybe geothermal.
    You're not too far from Dundas, and with the Pan Am games in the Toronto-Hamilton area for 2015, they're planning on building a velodrome here. At this point it's only a temp facility, but the push is on to make it permanent...It's just a matter of raising the funds...

    BTW cool bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    I will second that track racing is a total rush. CDR, what you need is a hedge fund principal who has already made his millions, is not under federal investigation and is an avid track racer.
    You'd think that with all the hedge funds in the area where I grew up that I'd know someone. But I don't. Arg. They're one whatever away. One degree of separation. Friends of friends, but not friends directly. I still think $100k is a lot of money so I'm still poor. Those guys... that's a default screen selection for buying/selling something. They live in a different world. Like "We need more default pull down settings. It only says 1, 2, 5, and 10 right now. We need it to say... oh... 10, 50, and 100 also". So if they buy big DOW futures ($25/point of the DOW, i.e. 11500x$25 for one future, i.e. $287k, $14mil, and $287mil for the default settings, meaning they set up their stuff to buy or sell 10, 50, or 100 futures at a time).

    To me it's just numbers. To them it's money that they make and lose. For the cost of 10 big DOW futures we'd have a velodrome in the state, a crazy nice one. And something like 10 or 20 years seed money to keep it going. 500 big DOWs and that's a velodrome in every state.

    Hm I should ask around. Heh.

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    Those bars make sense. When I had a track bike I rode on the streets w/ track drops, I would often put my hands in a similar position on long, flat sections of road. Cool that they come stock, the whole bike looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
    Hm I should ask around. Heh.
    For even a few hundred $K you can have a pretty nice track. I think Dale Hughes has said something to the effect that if you can get 200 of your closest friends to put up $1K each, he can get you a track. At that price it's going to be an outdoor 200 m deal on public land like they have in Rochester Hills (Detroit Suburb) but doing it that way also comes with a built in community that has a personal interest in seeing it succeed. The Rochester track was built pretty much that way (with a lot of donation smaller than $1K, too). Maybe add another $100K (probably quite a bit less) for an inflatable dome like in Burnaby, and you have a year round facility. IIRC, Forest City Velodrome was built for about $100K canadian (which was probably about $70K US at the time, but is now closer to $100K US), though the rent on the building it's in isn't cheap, so they have to work hard at keeping it full of paying customers.

    And short tracks are fun-- I haven't been on the Detroit track (I'm only in Detroit at xmas) but Forest City is great. My first thought when I got off was "hey, would could build one of these on the infield in Carson!"

    And back on topic:
    Hermes: glad to see you're going to be spending more time down in Carson! Though I'm a little surprised you don't drive down-- air travel has gotten to be enough of a pain that it's almost a wash timewise in the drive vs. fly decision between LA and the bay area.
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    Sweet bike! I'd like to take a spin on one of those sometime. The bars seem to provide good function, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingduck View Post
    For even a few hundred $K you can have a pretty nice track. I think Dale Hughes has said something to the effect that if you can get 200 of your closest friends to put up $1K each, he can get you a track. At that price it's going to be an outdoor 200 m deal on public land like they have in Rochester Hills (Detroit Suburb) but doing it that way also comes with a built in community that has a personal interest in seeing it succeed. The Rochester track was built pretty much that way (with a lot of donation smaller than $1K, too). Maybe add another $100K (probably quite a bit less) for an inflatable dome like in Burnaby, and you have a year round facility. IIRC, Forest City Velodrome was built for about $100K canadian (which was probably about $70K US at the time, but is now closer to $100K US), though the rent on the building it's in isn't cheap, so they have to work hard at keeping it full of paying customers.

    And short tracks are fun-- I haven't been on the Detroit track (I'm only in Detroit at xmas) but Forest City is great. My first thought when I got off was "hey, would could build one of these on the infield in Carson!"

    And back on topic:
    Hermes: glad to see you're going to be spending more time down in Carson! Though I'm a little surprised you don't drive down-- air travel has gotten to be enough of a pain that it's almost a wash timewise in the drive vs. fly decision between LA and the bay area.
    We usually spend two weeks a year in SoCal and my wife and I drive down with bikes. But for a weekend race, flying seems better and the Jet Blue to Long beach flights are cheap. Plus, if I come down to LA on business, I can work in a track session.

    Vittoria Diamante Pro lite tires came on the bike. They feel tacky to the touch and I assume they will not slip at LAV.
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    Ordered a Fuji 1.0 to keep out west. We'll be seeing you at Hellyer.

    Nice rig, like to hear what you think of the bars stiffness-wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes View Post
    Vittoria Diamante Pro lite tires came on the bike. They feel tacky to the touch and I assume they will not slip at LAV.
    Any tire will slip there if you ride slow enough in the corners...

    but those should be fine. If you want to move up a step with clinchers, the conti supersonics are pretty nice.
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    I went to the track yesterday, Hellyer, and did a workout. It was pretty easy workout but felt hard - no track legs. So I do not know about how the bike handles at high power and speed in the turns. The position on the top of the bars is very nice although they felt a little flexy in the drops. I think they will be fine for training and points / scratch races. I do not know about sprinting.
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    Bike looks incredible. I hope it serves you well!
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    hermes-- I tried to reply to your PM but you're either set up to not receive pms or aren't allowed (according to the UBB pm system)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingduck View Post
    hermes-- I tried to reply to your PM but you're either set up to not receive pms or aren't allowed (according to the UBB pm system)
    Hi BD, I will check it out. Sorry for the glitch.
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