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    Maintainable/target CTL levels....

    Would be interesting to see what you guys target (or can maintain) before you are ready to race or in "top shape" and what CAT you race in.

    Right now my CTL is 84 but im off a rest week (and been sick for a few days). Now that I am starting to turn the screws a bit with more SST and threshold work im guessing ill be in the mid 90s by the end of Feb and in the lower 100s by the first real race of the year in mid March. Comparing the last three years of winter training to this one, my CTL right now is 20+ points higher....... I considered 80-90 CTL a "peak"
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    What cat are you?

    Last year I peaked at about ~85 TSS/d CTL, wasn't riding enough to push it up there too much. (went from 5->3 tho)

    This (training) season I started at CTL of 35 in October, it was at about 70 during Base 3(?) when I was hit by a car in late December.

    Probably sitting back around 50 at the moment, I'm scared to look as I haven't touched the bike in three weeks.

    As for what is maintainable for me, I think I could go higher than 85 during the season, and was planning on doing that before the injury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
    Would be interesting to see what you guys target (or can maintain) before you are ready to race or in "top shape" and what CAT you race in.
    This post seems particularly apropos http://forum.slowtwitch.com/cgi-bin/...thlon;#3165170

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    My ctl is just under 100, my ramp rate from 50 back on October 15th was ~5 per week. But I have zero top end, I'm currently a one pump Chuck when it comes to red-lining. Racing started last Saturday, but for me, while I am showing up to play, it doesn't really start for another month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensuf View Post
    My ctl is just under 100, my ramp rate from 50 back on October 15th was ~5 per week. But I have zero top end, I'm currently a one pump Chuck when it comes to red-lining. Racing started last Saturday, but for me, while I am showing up to play, it doesn't really start for another month.
    Interesting thread. I got up around 80 CTL in the middle of the season, but dropped down to 11 during the winter at one point. Are you guys saying your CTL never dips below 40-50 during the offseason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yep View Post
    Interesting thread. I got up around 80 CTL in the middle of the season, but dropped down to 11 during the winter at one point. Are you guys saying your CTL never dips below 40-50 during the offseason?
    I stepped off the bike on September 30th with a CTL of 75. Two weeks later when I got back on the bike it was 50. I did nothing but read, hike, swim, and drink beer during the two weeks off. As of this morning, it's 98.

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    I have more upside down shark fins than you in my CTL. I suck.

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    I can get up to 120 for a month or so. Any higher and I'm digging a hole instead of improving. 80-100 is normal during the season.

    But I don't do much intensity and I do a lot of 5 hour climbing rides that score well over 300 TSS. If your training has a lot of intensity (because you're training for crits instead of long road races) then the CTL you'd aim for would be lower.

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    interesting topic. last year, my first with power and first racing, i topped out around 70ish. i dabbled in a little running and downtime in Oct & Nov dropping it in the 50s. by the looks of things i will finish up base near last years peak CTL. later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asgelle View Post
    This post seems particularly apropos http://forum.slowtwitch.com/cgi-bin/...thlon;#3165170
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    I peaked at 70 in September. (I am a Cat 3) It was just based on HR. I'll be curious to see what improvements can be made with power monitoring now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso View Post
    I peaked at 70 in September. (I am a Cat 3) It was just based on HR. I'll be curious to see what improvements can be made with power monitoring now.
    was this trimp points? What program did you use to calculate stress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich View Post
    was this trimp points? What program did you use to calculate stress?
    hrTSS:

    http://support.trainingpeaks.com/per...res.aspx#hrTSS
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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso View Post
    thanks for the reply

    i take it that you have to pay for wko+ in order to use it?

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    The paid version of Training Peaks. I'm not sure what more I'd be getting in using WKO+. More charts and graphs maybe?
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    i usually run a CTL of about 12.3
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    I'm only vaguely aware of what this means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich View Post
    thanks for the reply

    i take it that you have to pay for wko+ in order to use it?
    Golden Cheetah gives you similar functions for free. I ended up going with WKO more out of herd mentality. Golden Cheetah has a really cool CdA calculator that's fun to play with.
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    So, if I'm already logging a year's worth of diet and HR data into trainingpeaks.com, do I have to go with WKO+ to build on that or can it talk to Golden Cheetah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongeDad View Post
    Golden Cheetah gives you similar functions for free. I ended up going with WKO more out of herd mentality. Golden Cheetah has a really cool CdA calculator that's fun to play with.
    it does, but trimp is somehow not working for me at the present and just crashed GC... I also wonder if the WKO HR stress is more comparable to stress scores based on powertrimp_tss.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso View Post
    So, if I'm already logging a year's worth of diet and HR data into trainingpeaks.com, do I have to go with WKO+ to build on that or can it talk to Golden Cheetah?
    the paid online version is really just as good as WKO+, unless you are a coach or doing multi file quadrant this and thats. you get all the goodies online now; TSS, hrTSS, PMC, NP, ect....

    you could upgrade, then go back and calculate hrTSS for those workouts. later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich View Post
    it does, but trimp is somehow not working for me at the present and just crashed GC..

    report the bug: http://goldencheetah.org/bug-tracker.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by aham23 View Post
    the paid online version is really just as good as WKO+, unless you are a coach or doing multi file quadrant this and thats. you get all the goodies online now; TSS, hrTSS, PMC, NP, ect....

    you could upgrade, then go back and calculate hrTSS for those workouts. later.
    Perfect. That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks.

    Gonna install the Quarq tonight and collect my first power data on tomorrow's group ride.
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