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    Year License or 1-day?

    Hello All -

    My first race is the Poor College Kids Road Race in Los Olivos, CA. It's a 34-mile road race next Saturday the 29th. Any BF'ers doing that race? I think I saw UMD's name in the 3's.

    Anyway, my question is whether I should show up and buy a 1-day license, or purchase the year license beforehand. A lot of advice I have gotten on here is to "try it out" before doing anything big related to racing (equipment purhcases, etc.). So I thought I would do a race, get the 1-day and see how I like it, and decide later whether it would be worth it to buy the year. Then again, a lot of people's first races seem to involve them getting dropped...

    I thought I read in the rulebook (or somewhere on USAC's site) that money paid towards 1-day licenses can be applied toward the year license later, but I don't think I saw anything about upgrade points transfering over.

    What do you guys think?

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    there are no upgrade points to go from five to four. you just need to do 10 races, and keep track of them. it's up to your local district rep whether or not a race or two done on one day licenses will count, but I think most will let it slide.

    so, my suggestion would be do the one day license, if you find that racing is for you, get the annual and when you submit for your cat4 upgrade, list the race you did on the one day license.
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    Races on a one-day license count for 5-4 upgrades. It's still a race start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericm979 View Post
    Races on a one-day license count for 5-4 upgrades. It's still a race start.
    I was told they do not count.
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    The district rep has so much discretion in this matter that it would make sense to contact him and ask. Or talk to other racers in your area (teammates?) about their experience. I am pretty sure that, here, cat5-cat4 upgrades are approved on 1-day licenses. The onus is really on the racer to keep track of his/her races, but that is true for all upgrades. . . here . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagogal View Post
    The district rep has so much discretion in this matter that it would make sense to contact him and ask. Or talk to other racers in your area (teammates?) about their experience. I am pretty sure that, here, cat5-cat4 upgrades are approved on 1-day licenses. The onus is really on the racer to keep track of his/her races, but that is true for all upgrades. . . here . . .
    Assuming by your name that you are in Chicago.......and know me... ...let me add that actually in Chicago now that ST is the upgrade official we aren't really sure what counts. It seems in his book the rules don't matter and the upgrade is subject only to how he sees the sport and how he thinks things should go ....again...regardless of the rules.

    OP - .....if you've been out here checking out posts for a long time, investigating the scene...know enough already to know who UMD is in real life and see him already pre-reg'd then....you're hooked. Racing your first race will be like taking your first hit of crack - ...or so I've been told. If you have the cash on hand now just get an annual and be done with it. The number stays with you for a lifetime - trust me on that one - so you can even decide to leave and come back years later and all of your results, etc will still be there. It will get you off your ass and get you out there training and entering races in order to "make it worthwhile", and if for some strange out of this world reason you all of a sudden decide that it isn't for you the money you spent will go a long way towards helping run a good organization.

    ...besides....do you ACTUALLY think that there is even the slightest chance you won't be totally hooked? Having been around this sport for a while I don't even know you but can tell you that you're already hooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
    OP - .....if you've been out here checking out posts for a long time, investigating the scene...know enough already to know who UMD is in real life and see him already pre-reg'd then....you're hooked.
    Haha. Yeah, I have been reading things from these forums waaay longer than I have been a member and making posts of my own. I certainly understand the "addiction" threads all too well. It is true I will likely be hooked after trying it.

    I am always going on group rides thinking "ok, its been a long week, I'll ride easy and hang with the pack today" only to fly off the front with another fast guy less than 5 minutes in. I guess I like the challenge. It's very difficult for me to not ride hard.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Perhaps I'll think of you when wheels are in the budget....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handelfan View Post
    Haha. Yeah, I have been reading things from these forums waaay longer than I have been a member and making posts of my own. I certainly understand the "addiction" threads all too well. It is true I will likely be hooked after trying it.

    I am always going on group rides thinking "ok, its been a long week, I'll ride easy and hang with the pack today" only to fly off the front with another fast guy less than 5 minutes in. I guess I like the challenge. It's very difficult for me to not ride hard.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Perhaps I'll think of you when wheels are in the budget....
    just been around this stuff for a while and tend to skip the preliminaries anymore. I do a 2 second assessment and then hold out a kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
    I do a 2 second assessment and then hold out a kit.
    Do you toss them a freebie first?

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    Handelfan, go bust it up!!!

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    Thanks guys.

    I just bought the year license. Muahaha!

    However, I won't get it in time for Saturday - so I just print the "authorization to ride"?

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    ^correct. make sure to take it with you. good luck and have fun.

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    Also just purchased my 2011 license figuring that the one day for my first race is a waste, knowing there will be more. Our first local race is not really until early April, so that gives me some more time to prepare and get hyped up for it, plus it still gives me time for some more skiing before then.
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