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Old 01-28-11, 10:23 PM
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Newb training.

I've been riding a road bike for just over a year now and back in December I started organized training with Friel's book. I'm finishing up a recovery week right now and Monday is the start of "Base 3". Restraining myself to 5:30 hrs this week feels silly when I only did 11hrs at the peak of Base 2.

To top it off, I'm unemployed at the moment and the weather is getting warmer. Progressing this slowly is killing me. Can't I just go out there and bury myself under Pain Highway? Or will I benefit if I continue with this program of restraint?

First road race of the season is Feb 12 and I have no "A-priority races."
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Step 1) Get a powermeter.
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IMHO you've just started riding. For the first 2 seasons you'll see the biggest gains from just riding lots. Going into your third season I'd look at a more structured program like the one you're currently using.

BTW, riding lots doesn't mean hammering for an hour every day. You'll need to mix it up and include some steady 3~4 hour rides as well. Mostly just have fun for now and put in some time in the saddle.

A PM is a bonus but not a must at this stage.
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Go back and read the introduction.
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cyclists should be forced to learn how to become proficient at music in order to learn patience, and a long-term perspective.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
IMHO you've just started riding. For the first 2 seasons you'll see the biggest gains from just riding lots. Going into your third season I'd look at a more structured program like the one you're currently using.

BTW, riding lots doesn't mean hammering for an hour every day. You'll need to mix it up and include some steady 3~4 hour rides as well. Mostly just have fun for now and put in some time in the saddle.

A PM is a bonus but not a must at this stage.
What he said. Save your money until you decide to stick with racing and have learned enough to benefit from a powermeter. Even then, you don't need a pm to go far with racing. It's a tool, not a magic potion. 99% of the gains come from your legs & your brain.
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You don't say if you are doing any group riding. If you aren't you should.
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In running they say you get faster by running longer. Does this hold true (for beginners) in cycling. Will my speed increase if I do longer rides or should I do shorter more intense rides. I not looking for a wiseass answer of doing both. Obviously a mix of both is helpful, but what is better to concentrate on?
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Originally Posted by HMF
Can't I just go out there and bury myself under Pain Highway? Or will I benefit if I continue with this program of restraint?

First road race of the season is Feb 12 and I have no "A-priority races."
Again, read the intro. The book is designed for experienced racers with an existing level of race fitness; perioidization programs are designed with an "A" race period in mind. You'd be better off following a "ride/race then rest if you're tired program" right now.

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Obviously a mix of both is helpful, but what is better to concentrate on?
Depends on you and your racing goals. Strengths and weaknesses of the individual and type of events you're doing should be driving any kind of training strategy.
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Originally Posted by HMF
I've been riding a road bike for just over a year now and back in December I started organized training with Friel's book.
Just a year? Then read less and ride more, period.
Add some group rides as well, so you can learn good bike handling skills. A couple of years down the road, you can pick up the book again and plan more specific training. At this stage, you will receive the most benefit from just riding your bike IMO.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
cyclists should be forced to learn how to become proficient at music in order to learn patience, and a long-term perspective.
I couldn't agree more. I started riding right when I began to make the most substantial progress on the horn I've ever had. There are a lot of similarities or parallels I've taken between the two, mostly in terms of muscle development, rest, etc. though my legs can take a far greater beating than my face can.
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