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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    he lost track of where you were, or otherwise didn't see you. unlikely that he tried​ to chop you like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by spectastic View Post
    I was going to say, I probably should've called out earlier in antipication of the turn up ahead.
    Guy looked pretty squirrly bouncing around, and likely on his limit. I would have tried to keep in front of him.
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    it was pretty hard to pass people with all those turns right before the finishline, which is why I probably should've fought for a spot during the straightaway.

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    First 2 laps of the Tour of Austin M40+ @ Circuit of the Americas, this past Saturday. Not mine, posted by another racer. I make a few cameo's hiding in the bunch and missing the winning break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
    First 2 laps of the Tour of Austin M40+ @ Circuit of the Americas, this past Saturday. Not mine, posted by another racer. I make a few cameo's hiding in the bunch and missing the winning break.

    Nice vid. I always feel good about my placement when I look around my break and see those faces. Generally, not coming back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    Nice vid. I always feel good about my placement when I look around my break and see those faces. Generally, not coming back.
    I'm still kicking myself for missing that move. I was too complacent, figured nothing would stick for at least a couple more laps. I'm not saying I would've been able to ride the whole way with those guys but I sure wanted the chance to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandro View Post
    Can some of you more experienced guys look at this and tell me if you think this was warranted? This happened in my race on Sunday.



    I can sort of understand the first touch/push, but the second one almost causes the rider on the left to lose control and he didn't seem to be a) deviating from his line and b) there was still plenty of room for the rider on the inside to make the turn. There's a drainage grate there, but it wasn't that bad and could be ridden over easily.
    The first touch was probably okay, not a great reaction but fine in the circumstances. The rider to the left definitely moves in a bit aggressively and seems to be riding solo in his mind.

    However the rider waits for the second touch with one hand off the bar the whole time, really wants to push the rider and waits for the excuse to do so. This is not good. The sewer grate is a red herring, the rider doing the touching wanted to give the other guy a shove. There was so much time to avoid the other rider that there's no other valid explanation.

    If I didn't know better I'd guess that the rider doing the pushing is either more experienced or thinks he's more experienced. The whole thing seems really old school, i.e. stuff that happened regularly in races in the 80s but sort of went out of style in the 90s, at least in this area.

    I say "thinks he's more experienced" because a really experienced rider could have taken other aggressive actions that I'd think were better. For example the rider to the right could have simply moved more to the left (closer to the other rider), moved up a bit, moved back a bit, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectastic View Post


    14:58 yellow bike. what do you make of that?
    He was getting pushed around a bit just before that point. He doesn't hold a great position (too far back, too large a Sphere) so leaves himself open to those kind of moves.

    When he moves in on you you're plenty clear. You didn't have to do anything except stay between the two wheels in front of you. It's tight, given the whole situation (level of riders around you), but really you were in a weak position tactically speaking.

    Your options would have included things like going to the left to follow the two riders that went in front of the yellow bike guy (and the yellow bike guy swerved to avoid), move up harder on the inside (seems difficult), move up at least to be more even with the yellow bike guy (seems more possible), follow red rider (who is the wheel to the right).

    Ultimately though your weak tactical position limited your options.

    I agree that the other rider probably didn't do anything intentionally aggressive. He seemed preoccupied with survival.

    I find it difficult to read that course. Personally I don't know how I'd approach the various bends etc. I figure it would be more strung out in the higher categories with moves shooting up the sides and lots of closing doors and such.

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    Another video to go with the Keith Berger one. Shovel helps me out in this one. Fun race, fighting for Shovel's wheel for a bit, etc. I have one more race from that week to do (haven't even started it) and one more race for this season.

    I have a couple OTB clips I should probably do just to get the course down for future reference.


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    Great videos guys! Here's one off the bike of the 2013 Carlsbad Grand Prix Pro 1/2. Pretty raw so it's shaky and noisy but watching Bahati do his thing is instructional. Like I learned I'm slow as hell. My clock says they're doing about 29.45 mph.


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    so I have this 10g video from my gopro, and it's taking FOREVER to import it. Should I increase RAM? Get a new Graphics card? upgrade processor? I'm using videopad video editor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectastic View Post
    so I have this 10g video from my gopro, and it's taking FOREVER to import it. Should I increase RAM? Get a new Graphics card? upgrade processor? I'm using videopad video editor.
    Initially I thought you meant transferring to a computer, but now I realize you mean transferring into the software, i.e. importing it (which is what you said).

    Processor and RAM. When I import video I just leave it overnight. I use iMovie. My faster Mac has 16GB RAM and a quad core 2Ghz processor and it takes so long that I just walk away. There are a few stages to the import so I don't know how long it takes overall but it's a couple hours for the first stage. My old machine is a two core, 4GB, and that's several hours for each 3.97GB clip overall.

    I shut down everything else the machine is doing to try and help it along, even the backups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
    Initially I thought you meant transferring to a computer, but now I realize you mean transferring into the software, i.e. importing it (which is what you said).

    Processor and RAM. When I import video I just leave it overnight. I use iMovie. My faster Mac has 16GB RAM and a quad core 2Ghz processor and it takes so long that I just walk away. There are a few stages to the import so I don't know how long it takes overall but it's a couple hours for the first stage. My old machine is a two core, 4GB, and that's several hours for each 3.97GB clip overall.

    I shut down everything else the machine is doing to try and help it along, even the backups.
    Those are good tips. Another possibility is an SSD for your work. You can get 128GB SSDs for $100, and their performance will destroy the performance of a spinny hard drive. Just make sure that you can either install it permanently inside, or externally through USB 3.0 (2.0 is too slow).

    What you should do is (and I'm not a Mac guy here) run Activity Monitor while your machine is importing. I also see that iStat Pro might be a good performance tool, but I know Jack squat about Mac software. See if you can figure out what components are maxed out: processor, memory, and/or I/O. Then attack the worst offender. A system that will handle video with any kind of performance is going to be a beefy expensive machine, but you might be able to rice it a bit with some targeted upgrades. If you do memory, make sure you're getting memory that is the fastest your system can make use of -- don't go cheap just to get more GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
    The first touch was probably okay, not a great reaction but fine in the circumstances. The rider to the left definitely moves in a bit aggressively and seems to be riding solo in his mind.

    However the rider waits for the second touch with one hand off the bar the whole time, really wants to push the rider and waits for the excuse to do so. This is not good. The sewer grate is a red herring, the rider doing the touching wanted to give the other guy a shove. There was so much time to avoid the other rider that there's no other valid explanation.

    If I didn't know better I'd guess that the rider doing the pushing is either more experienced or thinks he's more experienced. The whole thing seems really old school, i.e. stuff that happened regularly in races in the 80s but sort of went out of style in the 90s, at least in this area.

    I say "thinks he's more experienced" because a really experienced rider could have taken other aggressive actions that I'd think were better. For example the rider to the right could have simply moved more to the left (closer to the other rider), moved up a bit, moved back a bit, etc.
    That was my thought, too. The initial contact was okish but the second one was totally unnecessary. Apparently that guy is a fairly fast track racer (cat 3, I think) so you'd think he knew better. Lends credence to your "he thinks he's more experienced" hypothesis, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandro View Post
    Can some of you more experienced guys look at this and tell me if you think this was warranted? This happened in my race on Sunday.



    I can sort of understand the first touch/push, but the second one almost causes the rider on the left to lose control and he didn't seem to be a) deviating from his line and b) there was still plenty of room for the rider on the inside to make the turn. There's a drainage grate there, but it wasn't that bad and could be ridden over easily.
    Complete over reaction on the guy on the right part. WTF for the guy on the left. I probably would have just stuck elbow out, held my line, and chugged along. I noticed people in 4's tend to freak out a bit when contact happens.
    I see hills.... Bring them on!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
    Complete over reaction on the guy on the right part. WTF for the guy on the left. I probably would have just stuck elbow out, held my line, and chugged along. I noticed people in 4's tend to freak out a bit when contact happens.
    While I agree, this was a combined 4/5 field. The guys in the video are both 5s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandro View Post
    While I agree, this was a combined 4/5 field. The guys in the video are both 5s.
    5's are even worse.
    I see hills.... Bring them on!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectastic View Post
    so I have this 10g video from my gopro, and it's taking FOREVER to import it. Should I increase RAM? Get a new Graphics card? upgrade processor? I'm using videopad video editor.
    I agree with the above, figure out what's maxing out. Kinda sounds like disk and/or RAM but monitoring is the best way to find out. There will always be a bottleneck. For instance the video I posted above used 20GB Gopro (11 MP4) files and a 16.6GB MTS file all loaded in Adobe Premiere Pro and my system can handle that mainly because of the hardware but also how PP handles files. My current bottleneck is disk I/O so dual SSDs are probably in my future. GL

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    so it goes. damn.

    looks like u didn't get hurt at least!
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    I was going to avoid it too, until that guy cut me off.....

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    I'm always fascinated by how many Fatties there are in crit racing.

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    more momentum to carry through the corners

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    Gran Fondo Frederick Md, first climb 1300 ft

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    Quote Originally Posted by collin2985 View Post
    Gran Fondo Frederick Md, first climb 1300 ft
    wait why didn't you follow the other guys after the climb?

    that hill looks badass

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    I was doing 32 miles while a majority were doing 66 and a few 100. That was the cut for 32 milers.

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