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Old 01-03-14, 03:36 PM   #801
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I might be down there again in October. BF take over of the cat 5's?
I know what name I will register under...
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Old 01-03-14, 03:37 PM   #802
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J, Mehoff takes the win by a belly...
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Old 01-03-14, 04:21 PM   #803
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WR - I wasn't really being facetious - Austin is too nice a place to ride to go there without a bike. I damned sure wouldn't, but then I'm close enough that I'd drive anyway.
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Old 01-03-14, 09:56 PM   #804
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WR - I wasn't really being facetious - Austin is too nice a place to ride to go there without a bike. I damned sure wouldn't, but then I'm close enough that I'd drive anyway.
I know how tough it can be to break out and travel for racing.
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Old 01-15-14, 02:11 PM   #805
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Not mine, nor am I in this video. Will only join the 5's soon.

SoCal welcoming the 2014 season.

[video=youtube;G9LC1zWecEc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9LC1zWecEc[/video]
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Old 01-15-14, 02:31 PM   #806
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Great video. Yum.
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Old 01-15-14, 03:56 PM   #807
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Rad.

Good lord they have a big team..

Can't wait to race some of those guys at San Rafael!
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Old 01-15-14, 04:55 PM   #808
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Good lord they have a big team..

Can't wait to race some of those guys at San Rafael!
If all the teams show up in force, that will be a great race. Granted, I'll be watching and not racing...
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Old 01-15-14, 05:17 PM   #809
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If all the teams show up in force, that will be a great race. Granted, I'll be watching and not racing...
you could race in the lower categories. san rafael is a great race
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you could race in the lower categories. san rafael is a great race
I plan to...but I'll be watching the P12
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Old 01-15-14, 05:42 PM   #811
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We tried to put on a good show last year!

And even had a "crowd participation" crash segment as well:

[video=youtube;5iD14ZE6HkY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iD14ZE6HkY[/video]

Downhill into that corner, it was only a matter of time.. of course this had to happen with 2 or 3 laps to go!! I was lucky to avoid it.
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SoCal welcoming the 2014 season.
That video was a clinic on:

Bike handling
Moving through the middle of the field
Advancing in shelter
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Old 01-15-14, 07:37 PM   #813
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That video was a clinic on:

Bike handling
Moving through the middle of the field
Advancing in shelter
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So, racing?





Nothing like a Williams Bros. video to pump you up for races.
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Old 01-16-14, 01:19 PM   #814
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Nothing like a Williams Bros. video to pump you up for races.
Great video.
I'm assuming that was Justin?
Duder has a great jump...
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That video was a clinic on:

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and how yellow gets you noticed...
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There were two teams in yellow, which I confused for one team at first.

I really like that guy's videos, some of the racing is really aggressive but it seems that for the most part the riders can deal with the craziness.
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That video was a clinic on:

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Moving through the middle of the field
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Leadouts
Setting up for the sprint
Friend of mine/former teammate (was involved in some of the early scenes) told me how it wasn't fast enough on the last lap, and so there was a lot of contact as people fought for position. Looked plenty fast as I'm not ready for racing yet.
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Old 01-18-14, 11:07 PM   #818
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There were two teams in yellow, which I confused for one team at first.

I really like that guy's videos, some of the racing is really aggressive but it seems that for the most part the riders can deal with the craziness.
Guy who won (Justin) was on Trek's U23 team 2 years ago, raced in Europe most of the season. He was telling me some of the drills he and his cousins (3 of the fastest guys I've ever seen up close!) do for practicing bike handling. One I can't imagine: hands on hoods, get close to eachother, reach out & lock fingers while riding. Crazy stuff. But they can navigate a pack without a second thought and with an inch to spare.
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Guy who won (Justin) was on Trek's U23 team 2 years ago, raced in Europe most of the season. He was telling me some of the drills he and his cousins (3 of the fastest guys I've ever seen up close!) do for practicing bike handling. One I can't imagine: hands on hoods, get close to eachother, reach out & lock fingers while riding. Crazy stuff. But they can navigate a pack without a second thought and with an inch to spare.
Any other drills? That one actually seems interesting, for real.
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Any other drills? That one actually seems interesting, for real.
I'll haveta check w/son. He's their age & talks w/them more.
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Any other drills? That one actually seems interesting, for real.
The #1 taught drill is to go into a grass field and roll at a very slow pace 2-4 wide, bumping and leaning into each other.
The #2 drill is in that same field practicing rubbing your front wheel against rear wheel in front of you.

If you are brand new, it is best to do this in tennis shoes the first time.

More advanced stuff like the above mentioned "locking of fingers" on the road, might want to take a back seat until all other basics have been worked out.
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That was heart pumping.
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Any other drills? That one actually seems interesting, for real.
I saw a video, I think from Australia, maybe women's nat'l team camp. They went to a circle in the grass, the whole team. They had to ride around in there and cause the others to either dab or leave the circle. If you dab or go outside, you sit out. Last one riding wins. When it got down to just a few, the others all moved in to make the circle smaller, just to keep it moving along.

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The #2 drill is in that same field practicing rubbing your front wheel against rear wheel in front of you.
I was doing that one on some single track with my 8-year-old, and he was getting pretty mad at me.
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Some of the drills I've done with success:
1. Leaning/bumping, typically on grass, but in the clinics at races we do this carefully on pavement. Speeds on pavement can reach 20-25 mph, on grass 8-12 mph.
2. Touching wheels, culminating in the "circle slalom crit" where everyone tosses a bottle on the ground and we all slalom through the bottles, ideally in full contact with at least one other rider. Going 3-4 wide means someone has full contact with at least two riders to the side and hopefully one or two riders fore/aft. Speeds are about walking pace. This to me was the most useful final type of drill, encompassing everything the riders learned. It also avoided the "t-bone tackle" moves that resulted in the "last man standing" exercises I've done before.
3. Learning to ride with your hips on your top tube ("picking things up off the ground") and learning to let the bike roll backwards ("trackstands"). These promote comfort with what are instinctively uncomfortable situations.

The finger locking thing is interesting because it goes one step beyond the "circle slalom crit".

I've heard of, tried, and rejected things like the brake lever in the butt (apparently that's how some euro-dogs would signal you're not going fast enough, by hitting you from behind). I can't think of anything else off hand but that was definitely one that I didn't think was necessary or promoted "better bike handling", at least not in the normal grassroots type racer environment.
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nice video - so many neon yellow guys - are they racing Bahati or is that a different team?
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