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    Bahati does a great job on the narration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
    Bahati does a great job on the narration.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md7h...ature=youtu.be
    That was awesome!! The insight is great and UHC is beastly.
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    great vid! i assume that was willy in the Marc pro kit, he said he crashed out on the last lap..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining View Post
    Here's the last two laps of our weekly training crit. I missed/let the break go (I had a teammate in the break ). Luckily everyone was content with going slow during the rest of the crit, so my upset stomach and sore body could somehow cling on. Yes i did break 39 in the sprint, cross checked with the srm says 39.5 mph top speed in the sprint into a minor headwind. Enjoy.

    Racing that hard with cars on the course would do me in. My nerves can barely handle racing with the other racers on the course, but the one corner with the car coming to a stop at the same time. I just don't have the faith in my fellow riders to stomach that. Nice sprint at the end though.

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    It's really not that bad. There are so few people who can truthfuly rail it and not crash that we take that corner really easy almost every lap. I have had to jump on the sidewalk before due to a car, but it's not as bad as it seems.

    Also that sprint was just pure luck/fatty sprinterness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
    Bahati does a great job on the narration.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md7h...ature=youtu.be
    That was intense

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    Indeed. Great vid.
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    I saw Bahati out on the beach path last week. Seems like quite the local racer celebrity. The dude that was following me pulled over to take a picture with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunbar View Post
    I saw Bahati out on the beach path last week. Seems like quite the local racer celebrity. The dude that was following me pulled over to take a picture with him.
    Yeah, he's very approachable to everyone. Takes the time to do all sorts of cycling events, not just national caliber races (regularly comes out on our Saturday morning Montrose Training Ride, even this past Saturday, day before Manhattan Beach & that video. For him it was an "easy" ride!).

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    Cat 5 here

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBxEvVdZl3g

    Crit 5th blowing up the field in two laps then getting lapped slowly since i couldn't get but one person to work with me
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    All of the TdF week 1 onboard clips so far:

    Inside the Peloton: Week 1 of on-board camera footage | CyclingTips
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    Ontario 4/5 30+

    Second race of the day, ended up sitting up in the last lap. Since people only care about crashes here are the highlights:
    17:00 Guy almost loses it in the gutter
    20:24 Crash (looked like someone panicked and went waay left and took the guy out)


    Ontario Cat 5

    Good race for me, I thought it was a solid performance. If you want to skip to the decisive part at 18:00 minutes I followed a dude who I thought was strong, by the time I noticed that I was wrong, we were in the back. Respectably, I fought my way back and had what I consider (others may not) a great performance.

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    20 min races?
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    The 5's is 25 minutes, though it never goes 25, usually under. The 4/5 was supposed to go 30 but they cut it short since everything was running late and they wanted to get the p12 off on time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    The 5's is 25 minutes, though it never goes 25, usually under. The 4/5 was supposed to go 30 but they cut it short since everything was running late and they wanted to get the p12 off on time.
    I skimmed a bit, but it looks like you're in the wind more than needed (granted you guys are all kinds of fanned out). I'd defer to others for better feedback though.
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    Adam Myerson, who appears in the Bahati commentary thing, did 219w (261w NP), 1200w peak, for 1:30 or so. Tell me those aren't Cat 3 numbers. 219w is a bit high for me for even an hour (I might be able to do it for 30 minutes in a crit) but that and 1200w peak are not superhuman.
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    I will watch the full videos later when work calms down but as Hack said, the group is way too fanned out and you need to take advantage of that, you are just being like everyone else and not following someone's wheel (I only saw part of the first video). For the amount of time and money you spend in this sport (you have a powermeter which is rare for a cat 5) you should work on conserving energy and staying close to people. I find that if I'm almost a bike length back, about 6 feet from a wheel, I need to do a few very hard pedal strokes to get back in the draft. A lot of times I find that I don't even know I'm in the draft until I lose someone's wheel or go to the side and then get hit with a wall of wind at 25+mph. Even if you are not following someone who is holding their position as well as you would like, if you practice staying on a wheel for 5 minutes you can conserve so much energy and save it for later. Also, find out who did well last race and if they are there again, try to use similar tactics as them. That's what I started working on.

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    Adam is 42 racing years old and has been racing forever. Road isn't even his focus. 1200w, sure, but he's pint sized. An amazing rider. Won the pro race at Exeter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramercy View Post
    I will watch the full videos later when work calms down but as Hack said, the group is way too fanned out and you need to take advantage of that, you are just being like everyone else and not following someone's wheel (I only saw part of the first video). For the amount of time and money you spend in this sport (you have a powermeter which is rare for a cat 5) you should work on conserving energy and staying close to people. I find that if I'm almost a bike length back, about 6 feet from a wheel, I need to do a few very hard pedal strokes to get back in the draft. A lot of times I find that I don't even know I'm in the draft until I lose someone's wheel or go to the side and then get hit with a wall of wind at 25+mph. Even if you are not following someone who is holding their position as well as you would like, if you practice staying on a wheel for 5 minutes you can conserve so much energy and save it for later. Also, find out who did well last race and if they are there again, try to use similar tactics as them. That's what I started working on.
    Thanks Gramercy, that second race was not nearly as good as the first (bottom video). Being a little tired from the race earlier and the heat (100+) contributed, but the main thing was the trust level was way off. I'm not sure if the video shows much of it but there were a lot of guys that couldn't hold a straight line and a few knee jerk reactions to minor moves which made me really nervous. Since that was my first dabble into Cat 4 I was expecting the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
    Adam Myerson, who appears in the Bahati commentary thing, did 219w (261w NP), 1200w peak, for 1:30 or so. Tell me those aren't Cat 3 numbers. 219w is a bit high for me for even an hour (I might be able to do it for 30 minutes in a crit) but that and 1200w peak are not superhuman.
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    I think thats also including a bunch of stopped time. If you click on interval 1 it shows 249ap 271np.

    Either way...for a 30mph race that seems crazy to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wylde06 View Post
    I think thats also including a bunch of stopped time. If you click on interval 1 it shows 249ap 271np.

    Either way...for a 30mph race that seems crazy to me.
    Ah okay. I was trying to figure out what his power was for 1:30, which according to the newspaper was the elapsed time for the race. Still, though, that's a real world number, not the 440w that a Taylor Phinney puts down or even the 490w average power that it took for a local to get 3rd at the U23 National TT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wylde06 View Post
    I think thats also including a bunch of stopped time. If you click on interval 1 it shows 249ap 271np.

    Either way...for a 30mph race that seems crazy to me.
    Ah okay. I was trying to figure out what his power was for 1:30, which according to the newspaper was the elapsed time for the race. Still, though, that's a real world number, not the 440w that a Taylor Phinney puts down or even the 490w average power that it took for a local to get 3rd at the U23 National TT.
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    the power data makes sense to me - sitting in the pack, even a p/1 pack, doesn't necessarily require superhuman strength.
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    Until there's a gap. Not superhuman, but painful.

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    Brutal crash at the end. Not fun fact is they were sprinting for 15th place.

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