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Old 06-08-13, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MDcatV
^and i wont be at either. our 2 y.o. decided to grab a handful of cashews at daycare yesterday afternoon. turns out he's allergic. his face swelled up like rocky's! ER, observation, released, now home, but late night. going to the beach tomorrow for a family vacation so too many things to do to race, and missing towc also. :-/
bummer to hear that, and hopefully your 2-yr old will be fine.

enjoy your vacation
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I don't know when it clicked, but you put it all together this spring. You have had a very strong early season with the results to show for it. The stress hasn't gone away, in fact it probably increased with your job search and relocation, but you figured out how to find the balance. Once you did, you became a much nicer person to deal with. We'll be in the same field at some point. I look forward to it.
Thanks Shovel. Coming from you it means quite a bit.

hiring a certain cranky old master's racer as coach certainly helped. The approach and the workouts that went with it were something that i'd have never discovered or adopted had i came across them on my own. Runs pretty counter to what gets thrown out on wattage and slowtwitch regarding how one gets stronger (e-wang wise), but the more i stay on those places, the more i realize that people are pretty deluded to think that a few scientific models are the end all and be all of things. With my old approach, i think it would have taken me perhaps another season to get to the 3's as i wasn't training specifically to the events.

other than the thesis work that i'm still trying to finish, i think the stress level has actually come down quite a bit. Research projects in grad school is just way too nebulous for me to handle, and i don't handle things without a clear deadline that well. I like it that in my current work place that people understand that 20% of the work gets you 80% of the result, and they expect you do go 85-90% so you get relatively quality work out without wasting time to hunt for the minutia.

Hopefully i'll see you on the road or in a race in the near future.
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i miss seeing good race videos in this thread. what is going on
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
I'll stand up and say that I was one of your harshest critics. I have no idea what kind of stress grad school puts on people as I have a lowly undergraduate degree, however stress comes in all shapes and sizes, and if you knew the story of my life and family I think you'd agree that I understand stress well. I allow stress to be an excuse, for a limited time. But your flailing and hand wringing only made your training and racing worse. You seemed to have the talent, it was just buried under all this doodoo. I was tough on you publicly and privately, but I hoped that whatever I told you would eventually sink in. You had gotten some great advice from some great racers. Now it was up to you.

I don't know when it clicked, but you put it all together this spring. You have had a very strong early season with the results to show for it. The stress hasn't gone away, in fact it probably increased with your job search and relocation, but you figured out how to find the balance. Once you did, you became a much nicer person to deal with. We'll be in the same field at some point. I look forward to it.
Wow. BF group hug. Who'd a thunk it?
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From a stage race I did last month, out in the rural wine country near Zaragoza in northeastern Spain. The race promoter hired a professional video company to film and produce these, narration is in spanish, but easy enough to follow the action. The field is open category Masters, which basically means anyone over 25.*

I'm a little hesitant to post them, since I personally don't really figure in the videos, I mean I'm in there somewhere but you'd have to watch in slow motion to pick me out. I'm total pack fodder and that's on a good day. But the production values are really high, and they give a nice feel for what the racing is like over here. I finished this race in 130th overall, which qualified me for the Lanterne Rouge (but ahead of 70-odd people who got time limited by the officials).

Stage 2, 89 km road stage with 900 meters of climbing. My teammate Sergio gets some good airtime near the start with a suicide break going for the first intermediate sprint. (There was an 8km TT for Stage 1, but the video isn't nearly as interesting as the others.)

Stage 3, 95 km road stage with 1100 meters of climbing. I cracked badly on the last climb and was the last person to finish inside the time limit, rode the last 15 km solo with the police motorcycle at the back of the race enclosure right behind me telling me to pick it up or I'd get cut!


*The results are often broken down by age groups, but there's only one race and all the prestige is in the overall GC. The upside of this system is that with only one field to close the road for, we get full closure, team cars and the whole pro atmosphere. The down side is that there is no lower category - if you wanted to start racing as an adult, your first race would be in this same field!

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That's the biggest Masters field I have ever seen.
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didn't want to make a separate thread so thought i'd put this here

this goes to show ya that it's not just the racers putting themselves at risk
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What kind of crazy course was that which would put an official standing in the middle of the road to direct traffic because it was coming both ways on an undivided course? And why didn't they red that race as soon as she was hit? Shameful.
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omfg. I hope all involved are ok. That is a crazy course. Agree, race neutralizes immediately with that mess, and there should be a rollup fence as a divider.
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Wow. An oh. Crystal City. DC. Probably setup by an elected official.
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That’s some craziness.
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Old 06-09-13, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
What kind of crazy course was that which would put an official standing in the middle of the road to direct traffic because it was coming both ways on an undivided course? And why didn't they red that race as soon as she was hit? Shameful.
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omfg. I hope all involved are ok. That is a crazy course. Agree, race neutralizes immediately with that mess, and there should be a rollup fence as a divider.
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Wow. An oh. Crystal City. DC. Probably setup by an elected official.
F***ing A. that's an outrage. my friend and i were sort of joking that they have human traffic furniture, but it ain't so funny after watching this. I truly hope she's alright. The accident occurred on Crystal Drive, on the stretch between the 180 turn and 20th street.



This is at the end of the Pro/1 race (i was there the whole race, it's like a mile away from my apartment). The course is set up crazy, and we were wondering just what would happen if the break were to cross 20th street while traveling south while the pack turns left from 20th onto Crystal Drive. Just so very stupid

There was also an inordinate number of flats in the race. I counted 16 within the first 8 laps, basically two per lap. I thought that someone might have been throwing tacks on the course... I certainly won't be doing this shenanigan if they don't do something about it...
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That was insane. I can't believe that was a course, let alone for a big P1 race.

Was the Volt the lead car I assume? That was incredibly dangerous.
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
That's the biggest Masters field I have ever seen.
Fields almost always fill here, 200 person limit. Comes with only having one category to race in.

That Crystal City video is nuts, not even a row of cones? What did they expect to happen if there was a break or split in the group? (Same clip on Bike Hugger claims the official is OK, hope that's true)
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Holy crap. That video was insane. I know officials are all supposed to wear their light blue shirts, but in that case, it seems like it would have been more appropriate for her to be wearing a bright orange vest or something to make her more visible.

Also, what hit her? The car, a bicyclist? I couldn't tell.


On another note, I've ridden with Chappy. He seemed perfectly friendly. I guess I'm just better than you guys.
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It's a bike that hits her. You can see the bike laying off to her left just in front of the car when the video pans back left.

The person most likely to be injured looks like it was probably the guy who hit her after she was on the ground. He went over the bars and flew pretty far. Looked like he was moving pretty fast.
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
Holy crap. That video was insane. I know officials are all supposed to wear their light blue shirts, but in that case, it seems like it would have been more appropriate for her to be wearing a bright orange vest or something to make her more visible.

Also, what hit her? The car, a bicyclist? I couldn't tell.


On another note, I've ridden with Chappy. He seemed perfectly friendly. I guess I'm just better than you guys.
you lucky bastard! He either ignores me or makes fun of me by using big words (like he used a 6 letter word the other day...nobody smart enough for those).
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Our team's yearly bragging rights crit. The race is a little unusual because only the Master's squad attempts any teamwork. They're mostly 1s & 2s so they want to make sure one of them wins. For the rest of us it's every man for himself. Another small team joined us this year which made it even more interesting. Great fun!

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Originally Posted by forrest_m
Fields almost always fill here, 200 person limit. Comes with only having one category to race in.

That Crystal City video is nuts, not even a row of cones? What did they expect to happen if there was a break or split in the group? (Same clip on Bike Hugger claims the official is OK, hope that's true)
the official is doing okay, as is the rider.
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Holy crap. That video was insane. I know officials are all supposed to wear their light blue shirts, but in that case, it seems like it would have been more appropriate for her to be wearing a bright orange vest or something to make her more visible.

Also, what hit her? The car, a bicyclist? I couldn't tell.


On another note, I've ridden with Chappy. He seemed perfectly friendly. I guess I'm just better than you guys.
aww thanks tfp.
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you lucky bastard! He either ignores me or makes fun of me by using big words (like he used a 6 letter word the other day...nobody smart enough for those).
dammit son, you can have the floor of my studio to yourself if you want to race in that race in the video

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Originally Posted by echappist
There are things in your video that an aware cat-4 would have been able to pick up.
I'll continue to work in that direction. But truly, thank you for your kind words. I

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(grad school does awful things to people), and looking back, I'm somewhat ashamed at the antics I typed (you want misanthropic, and not just trollish behavior, my posts from spring 2012 were pretty good exhibits). In any case, I really don't wish the torturous path I took on anyone else as it took me quite a while to upgrade due to a variety of circumstances, but as I've said this before countless times, I attribute my "race acumen" to all the stuff I gleaned from this forum right here.
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There are things in your video that an aware cat-4 would have been able to pick up. When i needed advice on training, people here freely shared their wisdom. Long before I actually had a coach (i'm one of those high strung cat-4s who hired a coach), I told people that the road racing forum was my coach.
I really appreciate your thoughts, kind words, time spent sharing. I'll follow your initial advice and hang on. I really do appreciate the time people spend.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
It's a bike that hits her. You can see the bike laying off to her left just in front of the car when the video pans back left.
As deplorable as this is, having caught it on video gives others a chance to learn from the organizational mistakes. Did someone determine the car came from. Was it a lead car?
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Race in Ottawa on Sunday. 85km (2 laps) with a 5km (more like 10) gravel section 20km into the race. I'm the NCCH rider in the black jersey and blue Marinoni bike. I started the race at 3rd wheel behind my teammate. The cool thing is that the ery first guy (blue/white/red) is from my local club, then it was me my teammate and then the guy taking the video is another local club guy. It was like a team double decker sand which! Enjoy what you want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAYb8-BNGzM
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@the domestique. You are welcome.

For your next race, forget about all the camera set up, think about what CDR mentioned, and just ride. When you are done, think about the key moments such as: damn i shouldn't have let that gap grow, or i felted boxed in, etc. Write a summary in the race report thread, and go from there. Whenever the video is no longer a distraction, bring it back and you may be amazed at how much it will help you now that you can remember most of the important details and use the video to fill in the gaps.

this place may seem a bit stand-offish at first, but stay long enough and you'll see that people do care.

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As deplorable as this is, having caught it on video gives others a chance to learn from the organizational mistakes. Did someone determine the car came from. Was it a lead car?
it's the lead car
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echappist: Next time i'm in dc visiting my sister, or if i end up going to school there ill shoot you a message and you can enjoy my company on a ride
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2013 Washington County Stage Race, Stage 1, Cat 4

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50+ State Crit. 97 riders. I'm the green helmet in the break and pulling with 2 to go. I flatted during the last pull.

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