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    RR neutral wheel support / BYO

    I have a question regarding wheel support for a RR I'm looking at. It says to bring your own, and if there are enough they will offer neutral support. I assume you bring a wheel and give it to the support car, and if enough people bring wheels then anyone can just swap theirs out for another if they get a flat. Is this correct?

    What about at the end of the race... you flat your nice CF race wheel and they give you someone's crappy trainer. How do you make sure you get your nice wheel back? If your nice extra is given out randomly, how do you get it back? Or am I way off base here?

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    Then don;t put a nice wheel in as your wheel truck wheel, put in your crappy trainer wheels.

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    Have a set of serviceable but cheap wheels for the wheel truck or pit. Victory Circle Graphics makes wheel stickers with your name on them. Or just race Campy 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    Have a set of serviceable but cheap wheels for the wheel truck or pit. Victory Circle Graphics makes wheel stickers with your name on them. Or just race Campy 11.
    That is OK if you can find them. I'd put Day-Glo stickers all over your wheels so that you can find them in the truck.
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    at the end of the race, you can find the wheel truck or find where the wheel truck emptied their wheels in order to switch back. Just ask the officials or the race organizers/volunteers until you get an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    Have a set of serviceable but cheap wheels for the wheel truck or pit. Victory Circle Graphics makes wheel stickers with your name on them. Or just race Campy 11.
    That's what I do. The down side is my cassette cost more than the wheels and tires I put in the truck.
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    If you're nice you may be able to put your wheels in a particular spot, like behind the passenger seat etc. I've worked wheel vans and the racers who appreciate what you're doing get nice treatment. The ones that think they deserve the world get treated "politely".

    I got to change some wheels too, and one change stands out in particular.
    http://sprinterdellacasa.blogspot.co...new-wheel.html

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    haha nice
    and i thought you were going to just let him draft you

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    Thanks for all the info. I have a set of wheels I can give and not worry too much about getting back. What about your primary race wheel that you give when it flats? Is there a way to make sure you get it back instead of someone else accidentally walking off with it? E.g. if you race with a PT or nice carbons, what's to keep someone from coming up to the van after the race and claiming it as theirs?

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    Is this actually a thing?

    I've seen neutral wheels, but I've only seen a bike shop or Mavic or something put up a bunch of cheapo box-sections. If you want your own wheels you leave them in the pit/truck with your number taped to them somewhere. Giving other peoples' wheels to random competitors seems like all sorts of a bad idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrainInAJar View Post
    Is this actually a thing?

    I've seen neutral wheels, but I've only seen a bike shop or Mavic or something put up a bunch of cheapo box-sections. If you want your own wheels you leave them in the pit/truck with your number taped to them somewhere. Giving other peoples' wheels to random competitors seems like all sorts of a bad idea
    Of course it's a thing. We do it all the time here in Oregon for our road races. Generally not a problem getting your wheel back after someone has used it; more often is people forgetting they put wheels in the car and forgetting them at the race. Most people just put in a cheap box section wheelset. Some races actually require that randomly selected racers provide a set of neutral wheels else face a fine.
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    The wheel truck driver should have some index cards. Take two of them, write your race number on them, and slip them through the spokes of your wheels like a hipster. The wheel truck driver should help you find your wheel when you flat. Part of the wheel truck driver's job is to take the card out of the wheel, flip it over, and write down the number of the rider who took the wheel. At least that's the way it's supposed to work.

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    Keep in mind this isn't the pros. In most cases by the time you actually get a wheel the intention behind it is to just get you back to the parking lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    Keep in mind this isn't the pros. In most cases by the time you actually get a wheel the intention behind it is to just get you back to the parking lot.
    That's how I've always seen it....

    The other thing to bear in mind is if you get dropped from the main group, then your wheel is going for a nice ride around the race route
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    Keep in mind this isn't the pros. In most cases by the time you actually get a wheel the intention behind it is to just get you back to the parking lot.
    +1. Earlier this year one of my friends was in the break with me (prob 2-3 minutes up the road), he flats out, wheel turns out to be behind the main field. He as a result has to chase the peloton for 8 miles or so and finally just said screw it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
    I got to change some wheels too, and one change stands out in particular.
    http://sprinterdellacasa.blogspot.co...new-wheel.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzTallRider View Post
    I cracked up so hard I had tears in my eyes.


    I was in a road race once (yeah, I know, me, road race). Brand new Campy 8s - their first batch of derailleurs came through with a super thick inner cage, one that would grab spokes and rip the derailleur right off the frame. Going up a climb (yes, me, on a climb) the derailleur did its thing. I stopped for a wheel (right hand up for rear wheel, and yes, I put a wheelset in), eager wheel guy jumped out, holding two rears.

    "6 or 7 speed, 6 or 7 speed???"
    "8. And do you have any derailleurs?"
    "Um, sorry..."

    He started getting back in the truck.

    "Hey, could I at least get a ride back to the parking lot?"
    "Oh, sure."

    So I got a tour of the rest of the first lap of the race (7 miles?) sitting on a bazillion dollars worth of wheels on their side in the back of a pick up. I was hanging on to the roof as the wheels were layered a good 2 feet high. Hopefully I didn't bend any.

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