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Old 07-18-11, 05:35 PM   #1
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Anyone Crit racing on Keo Blades? Thinking its a bad idea, am I right?

Probably buying the spouse her first road bike soon. Thought about taking my 2yr old keo carbons with 10K+ miles on them and putting them on her new bike and getting me some new Looks. A buddy bought the blades, but he doesn't race. I'm worried that cornering in crits may damage the blade. Yes I am a cat 5 ready to drop to cat 4 and the Keo max looks like a better purchase. What says you race forum?
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if you can't clear a corner without damaging your pedals, you shouldn't be racing
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if you can't clear a corner without damaging your pedals, you shouldn't be racing
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Speedplays. Better cornering angle. You'll rub the sides of your shoe on the road before you bang a pedal.
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Don't muck up the biomechanics of your set up by changing pedals during your racing season. Get something similar to what you're using in relation to set up and get the latest and greatest next time.
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I wish I had the problem of which expensive pedal to buy.
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Something that matches your loafers.
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Have you mounted some nail on cleats to those bad boys yet?
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Ha, good responses! Good point on changes during season. I had one crash in a road race last week caused by an crazy rider who took 5 of us out in one sweep. I had touched a pedal twice on one coarse in which I learned its not best to always pedal thru corners but stayed upright. Tough crowd here, as I expected through reading others posts. Back to reading more and posting less!
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The blades are the best pedal I have ever purchased by far. They have an incredible positive feel to them and with the 16nm version you will never pull out of the pedal during a sprint. In fact, I have to have one teammate hold me up while the other unclips me with a crowbar at the end of each race. I do like them much better than my Keo carbons. I rode them a couple of weeks ago and that made me realize how much better the blades are. If you are locked into the Look platform and based on the fact that this is a key contact point with the bike, I think the Blades are worth the extra $ over the Keo. If you are not locked into Looks, there are a lot of good pedals out there depending on what you want. One last note, the blade itself is replaceable so if you did manage to break one you would not replace the whole pedal. That being said, good like finding one in stock and a mechanic who knows how to replace it.
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I love blades. The best pedals (for me).
I have tried Shimanos, Speedplays, Keo2 etc.

Decided to race them at Dana Point crits this year.
Not a good idea since I run 177.5.
After touching the tarmac twice in the first race I had to coast through some of the tighter corners and was losing position coasting through corners.

Switched back to speedplay pedals for crits and will get 175mm for next year. RR & TT bike will run Blades.

BTW probikekit.com has 30% on Look pedals + use velonews10 discount code and you can get them for under $150! http://www.probikekit.com/us/contact...ad-pedals.html
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The Looks I think are interchangeable with position.

I haven't tried the Blades but I use the Keo Carbon and Classics somewhat interchangeably.

I regularly hit my pedal in corners in crits, sometimes hard. I wouldn't use a pedal that had a part like the spring in such a vulnerable spot.
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I've broken two blades on my blades so far, but not from pedal strikes. I probably crushed them trying to engage the pedal when it was upside-down. My next bike is getting keo max carbon.
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no one's mentioned Time; Time.
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My friend's time iclics have issues with clicking in, and I've also been riding behind him when his foot ripped out of the pedal while bunny-hopping over a bump, and he almost went down when his flailing foot hit the ground at around 35 mph while on a descent. Scary. The blade on those is covered, though, so you probably won't break them by stomping on them upside-down. They are pretty beefy in terms of profile though, and would imagine they might hit the ground, but haven't heard complaints from anyone.
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The iclic carbon and carbon Titan are cheap as dirt on BT thesedays though. . .
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I've broken two blades on my blades so far, but not from pedal strikes. I probably crushed them trying to engage the pedal when it was upside-down. My next bike is getting keo max carbon.
Interesting, never thought of that possibility.

I used to run lower tensions, then I unclipped a few times from a Keo Carbon (not sure if there's a "Max" in there or not). Usually I unclip because I hit the chainstay with my ankle, usually when under extreme duress (and pedaling form goes out the window). Never fell but had a few scares. I've since cranked the tension and have had no problems.

As a big believer in keeping it simple, the Keos work well for me. I have multiple pairs of Ti Aerolites just begging to be used (38g per pedal with cleats, 76g per pair) including one brand new pair but they're maintenance and set-up intensive. So they sit in my basement.
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To be fair, I'm not 100% sure how they broke, and I'm *assuming* I crushed them. I know I haven't had any significant pedal strikes. It happens to be my left pedal, which is the one I clip in-and-out of at lights, etc. Both times they've been sent to Look under warranty, and the blade was replaced, although it did take a pretty long time. I'm also running the 12s, not the 16s, and asked if the 16s would be more durable, assuming they would be thicker but did not get a clear answer, which I assume is a "no". I also know I'm not the only one with this problem, and that the 16s do break as well. Aside from this, I like the pedals, but it really is a bummer when the bastard breaks.
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Carbon plastic, esp if being bent, will break easier if scored, so may be it's getting gouged by cleat hardware, pebbles, etc. Whatever, the blade is another point of failure that seems more fragile than the regular coil springs in the Keo Carbons.
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no one's mentioned Time; Time.
I am moving my old keo carbons to my wifes new bike, so another pair of Looks is all I'm interested in. Leamimg towards the Max Carbon as well now,
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My friend's time iclics have issues with clicking in, and I've also been riding behind him when his foot ripped out of the pedal while bunny-hopping over a bump, and he almost went down when his flailing foot hit the ground at around 35 mph while on a descent. Scary. The blade on those is covered, though, so you probably won't break them by stomping on them upside-down. They are pretty beefy in terms of profile though, and would imagine they might hit the ground, but haven't heard complaints from anyone.
Good to know! I use RXS Carbon
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My next bike is getting Keo Max Carbons. My wife uses iClics and hasn't had any problems but she doesn't race or make very much power either.
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i just raced a crit on blades and didn't die.

in the last weeks i've used keo classics, keo 2 max carbons, and blades. they're all rather close, but the blades feel the best to me. i know, i know--maybe there is some psychological reason for me thinking that, but price isn't it. (i paid about the same for all of them when i got them). also, the keo 2 max pedals are still rather new, so it's not an issue of wear on the pedals.

blades save a bit of weight but just have a more positive feel to me when i'm clicked in. both blades and keo 2 max pedals feel like they give a little more support through the pedal stroke, particularly while standing.

i guess if destroying them in a crit is your only issue, then i'd go for the keo 2 max over the blades, but personally the blades for me are enough of an improvement that i'd buy them again (not at retail, though!).
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