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    Base layers in the Humidity

    SO, a well known poster here once advocated for never racing without a base layer; advice which I've considered and bought into some what. However, with regard to the base layer's actual purpose, keeping you cooler through evaporation: What are your thoughts with regard to this process in highly humid locations? I think that when the humidity's down, it works well, but after it reaches some point, the base layer just seems to hold heat to your skin more than anything, since it can't dry.

    Is my speculation about right from your experience, and if so, about what humidity level do you think this tipping point is?

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    i always wear a base layer.

    always.

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    I am torn on this one - some days I do (under armour heat gear) some days I don't, not sure what works better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    i always wear a base layer.

    always.
    wise man saying wise things.

    you can always unzip when it's that humid,

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    What about when it is like this? This was Sunday's ride:

    Temperature
    Avg Temperature: 104.6 F
    Min Temperature: 98.6 F
    Max Temperature: 111.2 F
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkwaki View Post
    I am torn on this one - some days I do (under armour heat gear) some days I don't, not sure what works better.
    If you don't notice a difference, it's probably not making much of a difference.

    I remain unconvinced on base layers for hot weather. I'm not saying they don't have benefits, but it's a lot of money to plunk down on testing that claim, especially since there's no clear consensus on it from what I can tell.

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    i hate to sound pessimistic, but it also serves as another layer between you and the asphalt in the event of a crash

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    Quote Originally Posted by grolby View Post
    If you don't notice a difference, it's probably not making much of a difference.

    I remain unconvinced on base layers for hot weather. I'm not saying they don't have benefits, but it's a lot of money to plunk down on testing that claim, especially since there's no clear consensus on it from what I can tell.
    Agreed, when it gets hot enough I am going to do what all the other locals do around here, ride in a wife beater with a Budweiser
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    Quote Originally Posted by notwist View Post
    i hate to sound pessimistic, but it also serves as another layer between you and the asphalt in the event of a crash
    Correct - the tighter that better





















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    i think a man would be saying tighter is better
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining View Post
    i think a man would be saying tighter is better
    Periodically you show your youth, this was one fine example...
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    i always wear a base layer.

    always.
    i never wear a base layer.

    never.

    Well, ok, in cold weather, I'll layer.

    I just don't see how a base layer is going to do any better at wicking than a tight jersey. You also have to transfer the sweat out to the jersey before it will evaporate. Seems counter productive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notwist View Post
    i hate to sound pessimistic, but it also serves as another layer between you and the asphalt in the event of a crash
    True, but I live my life on the basis of everyday comfort and convenience, not on the small chance of crashing in a race. Which I've done this season, by the way - the parts of me under the skinsuit didn't get too scraped up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    I just don't see how a base layer is going to do any better at wicking than a tight jersey. You also have to transfer the sweat out to the jersey before it will evaporate. Seems counter productive.
    Yep. I hasten to add that my team kit is super-tight Giordana Alta Gamma stuff, which is basically like a second skin. It's hard to see how a base layer offers improvement over that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    i never wear a base layer.

    never.

    Well, ok, in cold weather, I'll layer.

    I just don't see how a base layer is going to do any better at wicking than a tight jersey. You also have to transfer the sweat out to the jersey before it will evaporate. Seems counter productive.


    if your torso is like your legs, you already have a natural base layer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grolby View Post
    True, but I live my life on the basis of everyday comfort and convenience, not on the small chance of crashing in a race. Which I've done this season, by the way - the parts of me under the skinsuit didn't get too scraped up.
    Hey grolby you've seen how tight my skinsuits are - I should probably wear both underwear and a base layer - if you pop one of those seems the entire suit my disintegrate kind of like popping a balloon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
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    if your torso is like your legs, you already have a natural base layer.
    n i c e
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
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    if your torso is like your legs, you already have a natural base layer.
    Zing!



    You're probably right though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkwaki View Post
    Hey grolby you've seen how tight my skinsuits are
    Unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    i never wear a base layer.

    never.

    Well, ok, in cold weather, I'll layer.

    I just don't see how a base layer is going to do any better at wicking than a tight jersey. You also have to transfer the sweat out to the jersey before it will evaporate. Seems counter productive.
    Same thoughts. I haven't been on a hot ride and wished for more clothing .... but I don't have whatever is the "correct" base layer for summer, so I guess I don't really know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    i always wear a base layer.

    always.

    yep


    Quote Originally Posted by echappist View Post

    you can always unzip when it's that humid,
    exactly
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    Man, I thought I saw Rod Serling and something about being in the 41 zone..
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    around here where it's humid, if it's more than about 75F, i just can't do it. i get too hot. the base layers i have are essentially just thin, short-sleeve under armour-type spandex. the wind on my skin cools me off much better than those do.

    of course, i guess that might also mean i just don't have the right kind of base layer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by climber7 View Post
    around here where it's humid, if it's more than about 75F, i just can't do it. i get too hot. the base layers i have are essentially just thin, short-sleeve under armour-type spandex. the wind on my skin cools me off much better than those do.

    of course, i guess that might also mean i just don't have the right kind of base layer.
    duh.

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    these are the ****, got 4 of them for a huge discount about a year ago!

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