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    1000w for 15 minutes and 575w FTP??? Really?

    Saw this on page 53 of "Cutting-Edge Cycling" by Allen and Cheung:




    The time scale in the bottom does indeed go out to ~5 hours, not 5 minutes. I added the blue and orange lines for reference, blue being the 1000w line, and orange being the 1 hour power.

    Opinions as to if this is possible? Hunter allen has piles of real data to use, so I'd see no reason for him to fabricate a data set to illustrate a point in his book. Pretty darn impressive if its legit (but my guess is the timescale is accidentally the wrong one)!

    Link on google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=vyRI3yqGnNEC&pg=PA53
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    no way
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    Didn't know there were tandem riders with powertap...

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    Apart from the other stuff, they did 500W for apparently nearly 2 hours. Top level time trialists (Cancellara etc) may have an FTP of ~500W. This is incompatible with being able to hold 2000W (LOL - 1920W for 47 seconds!)

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    Well, the graph doesn't say anything about w/kg or w/CdA. If this had any chance of being legit I'd assume its the profile for a 200+ lb indoor track sprinter kinda guy - which I know absolutely nothing about. I dont know what kind of power a muscle builder looking cyclist can do.

    Bored, I like the tandem theory

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    Here are some figures from the world cup points race (from SRM http://www.srm.de/es/srm-in-action/c.../bahn/334-bahn)


    • 1/2 second: 2,096 watts
    • 1 second: 1,638 watts
    • 5 seconds: 1,296 watts
    • 20 seconds: 1,119 watts
    • 1 minute: 677 watts
    • 4 minutes: 558 watts
    • 20 minutes: 443 watts

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    Even if that dude is like 250lb, I find that highly improbable. 1500w 2min power?

    Not to mention, that doesn't look like much of a sprinter profile to me. My Profile is much steeper drop after the sprint than that, and I have strong 1min/5min numbers.
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    This thread is definitely better the second time

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    Quote Originally Posted by tallmantim View Post
    Here are some figures from the world cup points race (from SRM http://www.srm.de/es/srm-in-action/c.../bahn/334-bahn)


    • 1/2 second: 2,096 watts
    • 1 second: 1,638 watts
    • 5 seconds: 1,296 watts
    • 20 seconds: 1,119 watts
    • 1 minute: 677 watts
    • 4 minutes: 558 watts
    • 20 minutes: 443 watts
    those are some sexy numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by save10 View Post
    those are some sexy numbers
    Yep - and the dude averaged about 130 cadence for the entire race - very cool.

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    It is probably just an editing mistake with the x-axis scale. They are trying to highlight the shape of the curve, not the numbers.
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    One of the HTC leadout guys was doing about 1000W for one minute during the sprint leadout to setup Cav.
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    I emailed Hunter Allen about the mistake. I agree the scale is just wrong on the X axis.

    tallmantim, the link says 117rpm avg cadence....still pretty cool. I went out and did cadence drills after seeing the link. Got me motivated yesterday.

    Jancouver, wow. Really? That is pretty impressive and I did kinda wonder how hard those leadout guys were pushing. They certainly are wearing the "mask of pain" as Liggett might say. Was there an SRM data file posted?

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