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Old 07-23-12, 12:51 PM
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ha ha ha mr rkwaki. I am pleased to inform you that i just took an iq test, and i scored a solid 82.....jk i scored a 69!
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Does this mean he will be stripped of all of his upgrade points and downgraded back to Cat 3 or will he have to stay at Cat 2 and get his teeth kicked in without his go-go juice?
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
i think i have an idea who the other guy might be. There were some seriously high VAM for the Bear Mountain climb.
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I just find this incredibly depressing.
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I actually got pulled for a random test last year (not bike racing). It's nice to go to into one of those with a clean conscience.
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Gee, I don't even think EPO could make me fast.
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Old 07-23-12, 02:31 PM
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I actually got pulled for a random test last year (not bike racing). It's nice to go to into one of those with a clean conscience.

I have been drug tested more than anyone else in my company.
I actually have my own stall at the lab complete with couch, television, mini-bar and private parking space
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Old 07-23-12, 03:29 PM
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Wow.
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I hear some people are demanding Strava require a urine sample for all KOM's.

Right now over in the 50+ regular guy forum there's a thread on low "T". Have at the 60 year old guy who's tired all the time and lost his sex drive who rides the occasional century.

I raced against more than one guy using EPO. I would probably be very fast on EPO, if the way these guys killed me was any indicator. Zero doubt I'm racing against juiced guys right now.

But honestly when I hear one of the guys I raced against got popped my reaction is to shrug. Don't care. It's amateur bike racing, or in this case amateur bike riding for chrissakes. As silly as it is to take EPO or steroids to race in some industrial park I think it's equally as silly for some Cat4 to be making medical decisions based on WADA and whether or not he can get a TUE to race in some industrial park.

And it's the height of hysteria to test schlubs at a Fondo (and it wasn't a UCI qualifier BTW).

I sacrifice enough for this sport. If I developed an illness or condition where the best medicine was on the banned list, I get to either quit the sport or compromise my health. To race around an industrial park for a T shirt.

The list of things that are forbidden under WADA is long and somewhat complex. When I heard they were testing at the NYGF I shook my head. I bet 35% of the riders were out of compliance during the year, if not a lot more. And 98% didn't know what was even on the list. How many people you think had TUE's?

And if you weren't a licensed racer the punishment would be what? They take your bike away? Go stand in the corner?

I could do a shovel full (no relation to Shovel) of EPO and steroids and never get caught even if they tested every race I did. Look at how many pros were on a program and never tested positive, and that's when people show up at all hours of the day and night with bottles for them to fill. I'd bet that there were a bunch of juiced guys laughing their asses off about how these guys didn't know to avoid a positive. Testing at the races just tells you who the really stupid people are.

Folks who signed up for this Fondo agreed in the fine print that someone could come to their house and take their blood and urine. That's kinda depressing when you think about it.

A few weeks ago someone posted about having to lie to the investors about the condition of the company they worked for. The response was a lot more tepid than for this. That's pretty depressing.

But you know what's really depressing?

"GFNY raised money for Operation Smile, a charity that provides children with facial deformities a normal life through surgery"

I'm sure those kids didn't need the money they spent checking people's urine.

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Old 07-23-12, 05:50 PM
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I thought it was a masters qualifier or some such thing. It was in 2011 at least.
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it was for 2011 but apparently is not on the UCI "World Cycling Tour" this year
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The Strava testing has been confirmed. Anyone know Rkwaki's home address? I need to post this on the Strava blog so folks can send in their zip locks.
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wait, a Grand Fondo? WTF is that and why is a doper riding it. do i need to be worried that this October at the Pumpkin Pie Century in Flatsville the "winner" could be a doper. later.
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Is allspice on the banned substance list?
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Originally Posted by wanders
Is allspice on the banned substance list?
Racing would really stink without it...
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Old 07-23-12, 06:58 PM
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Racing would really stink without it...
dial magnetic body wash has andro as an actual ingredient

https://www.dialsoap.com/3D-body-wash.html
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I'm not even sure what a Grand Fondo is. From what I can tell it's some sort of fredly timed century ride with "winners".

Train more, dope less.
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"Andro" is slang for the testosterone precursor androstenedione, the soap has androstadienone a testosterone metabolite.
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic
"Andro" is slang for the testosterone precursor androstenedione, the soap has androstadienone a testosterone metabolite.
(I'm a mod. Must hold back...too good a set up...no, I can't...decorum....)

No wonder everytime

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(aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggg)
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic
"Andro" is slang for the testosterone precursor androstenedione, the soap has androstadienone a testosterone metabolite.

while this may be an attempt at humor that is failing me, the ingredients, as listed on that web page, does not include either of those things.
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Only the magnetic scent has it.

Ingredients: WATER, SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE, COCAMIDOPROPYL BETAINE, PEG-8, FRAGRANCE, SODIUM CHLORIDE, ANDROSTADIENONE (PHEROMONE), GLYCERIN, PPG-2 HYDROXYETHYL COCO/ISOSTEARAMIDE, COCAMIDOPROPYL PG-DIMONIUM CHLORIDE, POLYQUATERNIUM-10, POLYQUATERNIUM-7, DMDM HYDANTOIN, CITRIC ACID, TETRASODIUM EDTA, RED 40, RED 33, BLUE 1.
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
(I'm a mod. Must hold back...too good a set up...no, I can't...decorum....)

[...]

(aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggg)

LOL.

...

At least I can blame it on the competitors PEDs getting them the win every time I get my ass handed to me in club racing now!

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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
(I'm a mod. Must hold back...too good a set up...no, I can't...decorum....)

No wonder everytime

(No...don't...)

lathers

(must stop now)

I get

(noooooooo)

giant

(STOP!)

soapy

(aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggg)
The claimed pheromone is a component of semen. With a little work you can make any soap "magnetic."
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic
Only the magnetic scent has it.

Ingredients: WATER, SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE, COCAMIDOPROPYL BETAINE, PEG-8, FRAGRANCE, SODIUM CHLORIDE, ANDROSTADIENONE (PHEROMONE), GLYCERIN, PPG-2 HYDROXYETHYL COCO/ISOSTEARAMIDE, COCAMIDOPROPYL PG-DIMONIUM CHLORIDE, POLYQUATERNIUM-10, POLYQUATERNIUM-7, DMDM HYDANTOIN, CITRIC ACID, TETRASODIUM EDTA, RED 40, RED 33, BLUE 1.
Man - I gotta get me some of this soap!

from https://pherolibrary.com/androstadienone/430

Androstadienone, more commonly known as A1, is a very popular pheromone within the pheromone community. One of it’s more remarkable effects is that it can elevate a woman’s mood, and even alleviate PMS stress! It has been known to increase intimacy and comfort, and can also increase caring feelings. It has been called the “love pheromone” because of the nature of the feelings and reactions it induces in women, and also because of it’s usefulness in more cozy relationship situations.
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Old 07-23-12, 07:55 PM
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When I develop a soap that smells like B.O I'm going to call it "Primal Attraction".
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