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Old 08-30-12, 07:48 PM   #1
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Some quick wheel advice

So I'm trying to shore up my gear for the 2013 season. I've got the opportunity to get some 2010 808s clincher aluminum breaking surface for $1000.

Bottom line is that I haven't done the research yet, but the window to get these is small. Would I be OK using these as an all-round race wheel? The other option I have would be to make a trade after I get these 808 front for a 404 front.

Anyone have any opinions on 808s as an all round race wheel?
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I'd go 404 front and 808 back. I like tubulars but they come with a hassle factor. The aluminum rim Zipps are their most reliable product to date. I'll tell you I couldn't ride an 808 in some of the TX winds on the TT bike; it would be a death wish in a mass start.

404 front can be ridden in 85-90% of the stuff you'll see.
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I'd go 404 front and 808 back. I like tubulars but they come with a hassle factor. The aluminum rim Zipps are their most reliable product to date. I'll tell you I couldn't ride an 808 in some of the TX winds on the TT bike; it would be a death wish in a mass start.

404 front can be ridden in 85-90% of the stuff you'll see.
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I have a front 808, and I'd ride it in the conditions we see here - but not some of the conditions I've seen in NM/KS/FL/etc.
Windy conditions can be messy with the older non-super-wide wheels.
1.Get the 808s, trade for a 303/404 front.
2.Run latex inner-tubes & low rolling resistance tyres (if you are jealous of the tubular crowd).
3.Be happy.
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Thanks guys. One last question, in y'alls opinion would it be reasonably easy to make a 404/808 front trade?
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Go to slowtwitch and do it. Those fuggers will trade their wives if it will make them look cool.
You should see the deals I've made over there.
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Oh and some feedback on the 808s.
I have raced crits on a 808/1080 tubular combo and they are great once they are rolling but they tend to spin up slowly.
I love my 404s and just got a set of Mavic Carbone Ultimates which aren't as deep but very quick.

I have a teammate that races on a 404/808 combo and likes it though finds the 808 a little sluggish until at speed.

If it were me I'd get the 808s, ride them then decide from there.
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So I'm trying to shore up my gear for the 2013 season. I've got the opportunity to get some 2010 808s clincher aluminum breaking surface for $1000.

Bottom line is that I haven't done the research yet, but the window to get these is small. Would I be OK using these as an all-round race wheel? The other option I have would be to make a trade after I get these 808 front for a 404 front.

Anyone have any opinions on 808s as an all round race wheel?
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Didn't race in 2012.

I had EC90 Aeros but I hated them - the maintenance was ridiculous and I wasnt using them so I sold those. Also my power is a power meter - so I always had to choose wheels or data.

This year I want to move to crank-based (TT and road bikes are both BB30), and get a set of race wheels. Also, cleaning closet, selling CX bike - never use, can sell ptap if i get a quarq, I've got another road bike I can finish up and sell. Buying some MTB race wheels as well, current stock wheels are beat up pretty bad. The net expense for everything will be <$500.

That's my justification/logic.
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Didn't race in 2012.

I had EC90 Aeros but I hated them - the maintenance was ridiculous and I wasnt using them so I sold those. Also my power is a power meter - so I always had to choose wheels or data.

This year I want to move to crank-based (TT and road bikes are both BB30), and get a set of race wheels. Also, cleaning closet, selling CX bike - never use, can sell ptap if i get a quarq, I've got another road bike I can finish up and sell. Buying some MTB race wheels as well, current stock wheels are beat up pretty bad. The net expense for everything will be <$500.

That's my justification/logic.
You're like me, I wheel and deal for everything, trade, beg, borrow, etc. Racing gets too expensive when you are buying everything new/high end.
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