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Old 07-11-13, 08:09 AM   #9876
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alright, i need some help with cleaning my jersey.

somehow, a brightly-colored stain got on my jersey (on the white section in the front, no less), and i can't get it out. I've tried color-safe bleach (no chlorine), rubbing alcohol, and even a bit of goof-off, but nothing is removing the stain, which looks like an amoeba for lack of a better description. Anything else i could/should do before taking it to the dry cleaner or alternatively relegate it to s***ty weather duty? It'd be such as shame as i've only worn it twice...
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alright, i need some help with cleaning my jersey.

somehow, a brightly-colored stain got on my jersey (on the white section in the front, no less), and i can't get it out. I've tried color-safe bleach (no chlorine), rubbing alcohol, and even a bit of goof-off, but nothing is removing the stain, which looks like an amoeba for lack of a better description. Anything else i could/should do before taking it to the dry cleaner or alternatively relegate it to s***ty weather duty? It'd be such as shame as i've only worn it twice...
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Old 07-11-13, 09:30 AM   #9879
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alright, i need some help with cleaning my jersey.

somehow, a brightly-colored stain got on my jersey (on the white section in the front, no less), and i can't get it out. I've tried color-safe bleach (no chlorine), rubbing alcohol, and even a bit of goof-off, but nothing is removing the stain, which looks like an amoeba for lack of a better description. Anything else i could/should do before taking it to the dry cleaner or alternatively relegate it to s***ty weather duty? It'd be such as shame as i've only worn it twice...
You have an aggressive position. Who is going to see the front of your jersey? Maybe walking around, but who cares?
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alright, i need some help with cleaning my jersey.

somehow, a brightly-colored stain got on my jersey (on the white section in the front, no less), and i can't get it out. I've tried color-safe bleach (no chlorine), rubbing alcohol, and even a bit of goof-off, but nothing is removing the stain, which looks like an amoeba for lack of a better description. Anything else i could/should do before taking it to the dry cleaner or alternatively relegate it to s***ty weather duty? It'd be such as shame as i've only worn it twice...
Apparently I drank some of this this morning.
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Just got word my grandmother died. She was 92 or something, so it's not really a shock, she had pretty bad dementia/alzheimers, but I thought her health was ok. The wife and I kept meaning to go see her. For like the last month, and kept not doing it. And now it's too late. You always think you'll have more time. I don't feel bad that she's gone, it was her time, but I feel like an ******* for not going to see her more. It was just so sudden, such a shock.
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Just got word my grandmother died. She was 92 or something, so it's not really a shock, she had pretty bad dementia/alzheimers, but I thought her health was ok. The wife and I kept meaning to go see her. For like the last month, and kept not doing it. And now it's too late. You always think you'll have more time. I don't feel bad that she's gone, it was her time, but I feel like an ******* for not going to see her more. It was just so sudden, such a shock.
Sorry for your loss. If she had severe dementia, she likely wouldn't have gotten much from a visit from you, so I wouldn't beat yourself up too much.
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Just got word my grandmother died. She was 92 or something, so it's not really a shock, she had pretty bad dementia/alzheimers, but I thought her health was ok. The wife and I kept meaning to go see her. For like the last month, and kept not doing it. And now it's too late. You always think you'll have more time. I don't feel bad that she's gone, it was her time, but I feel like an ******* for not going to see her more. It was just so sudden, such a shock.
Sorry for your loss and lost opportunity. I'm sure you have many great memories. I'll take this as a good reason to go visit my grandma this summer.
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Well, at least Liggett is entertaining, I guess. I just can't bring myself to spoil it even in this thread though.
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Sorry for your loss FB.

Both of my grandmothers died last year, and rarely does a day pass where I dont think of them. Both had lived long and meaningful lives. I was honored to eulogize one, it felt like I was giving her a gift.
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Didn't take long for that CEO to throw the train engineer under the bus. I thought Canadians were all nice.
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Didn't take long for that CEO to throw the train engineer under the bus. I thought Canadians were all nice.
What I read was that the firefighters turned off the engine (and thus the air brakes) after putting out the fire, per protocol. And that since the train was on a slope, the hand brakes couldn't hold it. Is the allegation now that the hand brakes weren't on at all?
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Old 07-11-13, 10:47 AM   #9890
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Does pulling myself from a race because of sketchiness make me a @#$%&? Cat. 5, so expected I guess, but guys were all over the place through corners and I was right behind two crashes on consecutive laps in the same corner where the guys on the deck started scrambling around to get up thus putting themselves in the way right as I was in the corner on top of them. Unnerving was all, and I had a 5hr drive home to work in the morning, so I just DNF'd.
It doesn't necessarily make you a @#$&, whatever that is. A couple things, first, the perceived sketchiness of a 4 or 5 race can depend a lot on where you are in the pack and on how much you, yourself are contributing to said sketchiness (I'm not saying you are, but everyone in a 4/5 race always thinks it's someone else's fault, and often the riders who are most spooked and complain the most about said sketchiness are among the worst riders in the pack and ride themselves into sketchy situations). Second, cat 5 riders in particular are not necessarily that good at evaluating how sketchy a situation really is, see previous for reasons why. Neither of these factors go away entirely, at least not in cat 3; just recently, a rider commented to me after a crit that it had seemed like one of the sketchiest races he'd done all year. I was surprised, as I hadn't felt that it was the least bit sketchy and was totally comfortable the whole time. Perception is also going to be affected by whether or not any incidents occur. In cycling, one little mistake can be enough to cause a crash, and they can happen even in races that have been perfectly smooth and safe up till that point. Observing or being caught up in that could cause you to reevaluate the race in hindsight as being more scary than you actually felt at the time. On the other hand, you can have races where the pack is noticeably nervous and antsy and apparently primed for crashes, but then none happen. Obviously incidents are more likely when there are a lot of nerves and skittishness, but you get no guarantees either way.

I'm not exactly sure if that's any help in evaluating whether you did something wrong, so to be clear: I don't think so. Backing down when you're way past the limits of your comfort zone can be a wise decision, whether for your sake or someone else's. Just keep in mind the perception stuff, and to mattm's point, if you find yourself feeling that way a lot and pulling out of multiple races, you'll have to consider either what you can do to become more comfortable in the peloton (like getting stronger and riding further up in 4/5 races, sounds like you were fairly far back if guys were standing up) or whether racing is really your thing. If you do have a general comfort issue, at least some of it likely is due to how you're riding, if that's the case you need to identify that and work on it. I know one rider who is a cat 3, thanks to a strong sprint, but who has still never figured out that he feels sketched out in races because he's an incredibly unskilled pack rider; he is constantly complaining about totally safe drifts and actions by other riders. Now, with a lot of the races around here being 1/2/3, he's often going OTB because he's just too nervous to ride close and fast through corners. And good riddance, too, his nerves make him dangerous.

So, that's maybe too long, but just my $0.98.
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Didn't take long for that CEO to throw the train engineer under the bus. I thought Canadians were all nice.
I believe the CEO is Amerikan... He's made a sport of throwing people under the bus...

I'm thinking that shortly the needle will be directing at him. This isn't the first time he's been at the helm of a railroad company when there's been a derailment and MMA does not have a stellar safety record. When you cut costs to the bone things have a tendency to go to the crapper pretty quickly. Too bad innocent people had to get taken down in the downfall...
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What I read was that the firefighters turned off the engine (and thus the air brakes) after putting out the fire, per protocol. And that since the train was on a slope, the hand brakes couldn't hold it. Is the allegation now that the hand brakes weren't on at all?

The last quote from him said they had some (paraphrasing and pretending it's a quote) "questions about whether the hand brakes that he said were set were actually set".
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Just got word my grandmother died. She was 92 or something, so it's not really a shock, she had pretty bad dementia/alzheimers, but I thought her health was ok. The wife and I kept meaning to go see her. For like the last month, and kept not doing it. And now it's too late. You always think you'll have more time. I don't feel bad that she's gone, it was her time, but I feel like an ******* for not going to see her more. It was just so sudden, such a shock.
Sorry to hear.
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FB, sorry about your Grammy.
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Thanks guys. It's weird how these things change as you grow. I still remember when one of my grandfathers died and I was about 6 or 7 (the one whose wife just died). My mom yelled at me because I unmuted the cartoons I was watching the minute she stopped talking, before she even got out the door to the hospital. I just didn't really care. He had been sick for a while, I had made my peace already, and I was young and didn't really understand. The older I get the more it affects me and the more I miss the ones I've lost. I also remember bawling my eyes out when Earnhardt died. I was 12, and it probably affected me more than my grandfather passing did. I can't really explain why. Maybe because I watched it happen.
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Well, at least Liggett is entertaining, I guess. I just can't bring myself to spoil it even in this thread though.
Suffice to say, Phil said "X will never happen" exactly 2 seconds before X happened.
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I'm sorry for your loss, FB. I lost my grandfather 23 years ago and I still think about him every day.
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Suffice to say, Phil said "X will never happen" exactly 2 seconds before X happened.
We need to get Frank Caliendo to do his Madden bit on Liggett:

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