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Old 09-09-13, 07:48 PM   #12601
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for me its all about the atmosphere; 'cross looks fun...cool bikes, mud, beer...whats not to like?
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Old 09-09-13, 08:02 PM   #12602
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mud. unless you have a personal concierge to clean the bike for you
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Old 09-09-13, 08:09 PM   #12603
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and all this time I was led to believe you were a badass belgian-type hard bike racer guy.

I bet you'd like it if RacerEx did...
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Old 09-09-13, 08:35 PM   #12604
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And if RX were to do it, well, i won't let him live it down

And for me? nah, total wuss. i ain't getting paid to do this, and i don't have the time to spend that much time cleaning up afterwards.

maybe a few years ago i was idiotic (or hardman) to wake up at 4:30 am so i can ride in the high 30's rain to race in the low 40's.
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Old 09-09-13, 08:54 PM   #12605
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Personally cross never really did anything for me. I like the speed of road race, slowing the racing down and adding an hour of clean up after every race kind of kills the enjoyment factor.
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Old 09-09-13, 08:54 PM   #12606
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Anyone know of any?
Isn't a Campy 10 speed hub automatically an 11 speed hub ?? Or are there some exceptions based on brand ??
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Old 09-09-13, 08:54 PM   #12607
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Kids make you faster. I didn't win my 2nd race until my third child was born. All my best cycling performances have come since. Now I have a 7-yo tandem partner who begs me to do more miles when we're supposed to be heading back home.
Speak for yourself ..... A high maintenance family is a time suck and a motivation suck.
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Old 09-09-13, 09:00 PM   #12608
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Anyone know of any?
what, the upgrade bug bit you?
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Old 09-09-13, 09:24 PM   #12609
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Old 09-09-13, 10:07 PM   #12610
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Nah looking for a friend.
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Old 09-09-13, 10:15 PM   #12611
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I've been told cat 2 road racing is serious stuff. Serious.
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Old 09-09-13, 10:39 PM   #12612
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Chris Horner.

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Old 09-09-13, 11:16 PM   #12613
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For all the negative nellys, have you actually raced cyclocross?
Yeah. I won both races I entered. Pow! Welcome to Nellyville.

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Old 09-10-13, 04:16 AM   #12614
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Old 09-10-13, 04:24 AM   #12615
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I know some fast road guys who race cross on a very high level. I honestly don't know how one races that much. Not only from a stress perspective, but from a preparedness perspective as well. Not to mention the travel. I have a buddy who used to be 'serious' about cross but it had a pretty high level of wear and tear on his married life so he stopped. Lots of full weekends and hotels.

I really hate mud also.

I live in an area where if I wanted to get muddy I could do a million mountain bike races a year within a 2 hour drive.
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Old 09-10-13, 05:16 AM   #12616
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My teammate is an elite cross racer. At that level it's not really about the "cross atmosphere" at all, those guys are going out there and racing bikes hard, often both weekend days. The rest of us are just playing dress-up.
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Old 09-10-13, 05:33 AM   #12617
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I also look upon the idea of racing at a high level of intensity for 9 or 10 months out of the year with incredulity. I've seen people who seem to keep going all the way into cross Nationals (which is in January I think) and then start right up again in March with the early season road stuff.

I did cross for three seasons. It was fun, but it also gave me bizarre injuries that were annoying, probably due to the running and jumping and stuff. Plus, my fitness never improved but tended to go backwards during the cross season.
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Old 09-10-13, 05:47 AM   #12618
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I also look upon the idea of racing at a high level of intensity for 9 or 10 months out of the year with incredulity. I've seen people who seem to keep going all the way into cross Nationals (which is in January I think) and then start right up again in March with the early season road stuff.

I did cross for three seasons. It was fun, but it also gave me bizarre injuries that were annoying, probably due to the running and jumping and stuff. Plus, my fitness never improved but tended to go backwards during the cross season.
not normal?
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Old 09-10-13, 06:12 AM   #12619
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i would love to casually do some cross races in the fall, but i don't have the finances for another bike or for another season of racing at this point in my life.
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Old 09-10-13, 06:48 AM   #12620
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Not to sound defensive or anything, but which cycling discipline isn't silly?
Fair point. We are essentially riding around on kid's toys in spandex with foam on our heads and yelling at each other. Really the same whether the yelling is occuring on pavement or dirt.
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Old 09-10-13, 06:52 AM   #12621
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I think it would be fun to do a race or two, but like others have said, between road and track racing, which I can basically do all year here anyway, I have no need for another intense discipline. I'd actually like some time off at some point to recharge.

I also hate mud and getting dirty. What can I say. Not to mention the whole buying a third bike thing. I'm not even sure where I'd put it right now, let alone get the money for it or convince my wife it's necessary.
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Old 09-10-13, 06:56 AM   #12622
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not normal?

yeah. spoken a'la Lance.
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Old 09-10-13, 07:06 AM   #12623
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Old 09-10-13, 07:08 AM   #12624
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Never ridden cross though I was told it would be the perfect discipline for me just never had the interest. We used to race a lot and come fall we all ditched the road bike to ride mountain which was a lot of fun to do as a team then in the off season we cross country skiied, played hockey and rode rollers. Offseason allowed us to recharge our minds. I still don't understand how people can go year round the way they do.
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Old 09-10-13, 07:17 AM   #12625
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I tried doing cross racing casually a couple of years ago. It didn't work out so well for a couple of reasons:

1. Doing it casually doesn't work. You have to race hard in cross or else it is slow and miserable. You get stuck behind people who can't handle their bikes for crap, and because a lot of the course is tight, it's just waiting on slow people in front of you to work their way through the course and the barriers.

2. I need time off from training/racing. Going from a nearly nine-month long road racing season (we start in late January and finish in early September) into cross racing is too much for me. I don't want to drive to races or train or work hard. I need a break. A lot of the big time cross racers around here quit the road season in June or July to start focusing on cross.

That said, if you can make it work, cross is a lot of fun and growing quickly. My wife is a fan because it actually draws large women's fields. We hear a lot of women say they would never consider racing a crit or RR but think cross is fine.
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