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Old 12-05-13, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
Not that vO2 matters in racing.
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Rest week is over even though it has been only 4 days. Tomorrow is about 40 miles. Saddle time will depend on how the legs respond to the rest. If it feels like it is good to go it will be mostly an SST ride. If they are locked up it will be Z2 and I will postpone the SST to Saturday.
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2hrs with tempo and steady state efforts...

Feeling good...
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
I always figured nordic skiers had higher vO2 based on the nature of the sport. The upright posture, the involvement of all skeletal muscle, etc. It's got to be a more efficient to strip oxygen out of the blood using the full length of the CV system.

Not that vO2 matters in racing.
some of the biggest vo2max values do come from those with nordic backgrounds, but maybe those guys were drawn to nordic because it made use of their strengths rather than nordic specifically developing it?

what i find challenging about nordic is how it utilizes all 4 limbs so intensely--pretty big demand for oxygenated blood. i've read that the body is not optimally designed for that.

i sometimes race against a kid who is olympic-caliber in the nordic arena. fortunately he doesn't know race-craft because he shows up to races with a nuclear weapon for his vo2.
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Did the group ride last night. Winter has come to Phoenix and it seemed to get colder as the day went on! I always tend to look like a chubby hobo this time of year because I don't own winter cycling clothes, I just layer on what have! Supposed to be cold all weekend
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Arggg. this weather is messing up my training. I finally got everything I need for like 10F and up anytime of day but I am not dealing with ICE. We RARELY get ice that sticks but low and behold here I am at work with no miles today most likely the same tomorrow.
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Arggg. this weather is messing up my training. I finally got everything I need for like 10F and up anytime of day but I am not dealing with ICE. We RARELY get ice that sticks but low and behold here I am at work with no miles today most likely the same tomorrow.
And maybe a few more days...
I betcha Toone is out...
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The benefit of living in the north...

You deal with with this crap all the time so you are prepared for it, indoor and out... Rarely do I miss a workout, I just may need to improvise! A couple weeks ago I headed out, on a Saturday morning, with the intentions of doing 3hrs. Forty minutes in I'm in the middle of a now squall that was making things dicey. It did not look like it was going to let up so I looped it back home and got in about 70mins of riding.

Took the bike in, dried it off as best I could, strip the clothing down and hopped on the rollers for another 2hrs...

Workout done!
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
And maybe a few more days...
I betcha Toone is out...
Ha, he is a beast and you are probably right. Honestly, I am usually out when most aren't but ice is beyond me. I don't deal with it enough for it to be a skill set(wish it was) and I don't have any studded tires.

You getting ice in your area?
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Originally Posted by thechemist
Ha, he is a beast and you are probably right. Honestly, I am usually out when most aren't but ice is beyond me. I don't deal with it enough for it to be a skill set(wish it was) and I don't have any studded tires.

You getting ice in your area?
Not yet. I'm up by the airport and it's just raining...
Better go to Kroger and 30 loaves of bread and 15 gallons of milk...
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Old 12-06-13, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
And maybe a few more days...
I betcha Toone is out...
Yeah, but he's in 'bama. Might be a little warmer. And he's got that college professor beard to keep him warm.
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Tomorrow's ride is probably going to start at 25F and get to 45F. I may have to bust out my snowboarding gloves for the first hour but I'm not sure I'll be able to fit them in my jersey pocket for the ride home. Anyone use chemical warmers?
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I just bought some chemical warmers at Target. I'll see how they workout tomorrow on the group ride. A friend told me that there are reusable packs as well. I will have to look into that.
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I use the warmers on my feet, on top of the shoe, under the bootie... Never used them in the gloves. Hands don't seem to be the problem, but the feet are...

Temps this weekend will top out at a high of about 27F and start at 20F with a slight chance of snow...

I might just say screw it and ride the rollers. I can get in as a difficult a workout inside as outdoors. albeit outdoors is much more interesting...
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had to cut my ride short yesterday and head home before I lost my toes completely. Felt numb when I got to the top of the climb, then on the descent it was BAD, so I headed home asap.

Spent 30mins in the shower warming them up. Back to normal...next time it gets this cold im riding the trainer.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Tomorrow's ride is probably going to start at 25F and get to 45F. I may have to bust out my snowboarding gloves for the first hour but I'm not sure I'll be able to fit them in my jersey pocket for the ride home. Anyone use chemical warmers?

I absolutely SWEAR by chemical warmers. Over the sock, under the shoe. Over the shoe is not good enough. Over the glove liner, under the outer glove. 3-4 hours at under 20 degrees, no problem. I buy them in packs of 40, for under a buck per pair.
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Felt like crap today doing 2.25 hours of Z2. Lots of sinus drainage. I hope it isn't the beginning of "the winter crud".
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my nose has been running constantly when on the bike the past month or so. feel fine otherwise, but it's annoying.
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Originally Posted by mike868y
my nose has been running constantly when on the bike the past month or so. feel fine otherwise, but it's annoying.
I think in the past week and a half I've spit more loogies while riding than the entire rest of the year combined.
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Haven't ridden all week. Well rested!
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Originally Posted by mike868y
my nose has been running constantly when on the bike the past month or so. feel fine otherwise, but it's annoying.
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I think in the past week and a half I've spit more loogies while riding than the entire rest of the year combined.
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Haven't ridden all day! No workout at all today, in fact.

Company Christmas party tonight = carpool to work. It also meant coach gymnastics last night instead of tonight, so I couldn't wake up early enough to swim. I feel so lazy!
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Only rode on Tuesday. Most likely racing while I am in SoCal on Sunday AM (2 30 min crits). Will be interesting.
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need to change my quarq battery again, wtf this thing does not last 200hrs or w/e the claim is. It keeps telling me low battery every other month!
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